Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 2010 11:22:44 -0800
Reply-To:     David Marshall <mailinglist@FASTFORWARD.CA>
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From:         David Marshall <mailinglist@FASTFORWARD.CA>
Subject:      Re: Conversion? JETTA ENGINE?? Now Some TDi Comments (Shortened
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Comments: To: Gary Bawden <goldfieldgary@GMAIL.COM>
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When it gets right down to it, TDI electronics are no more complicated
than the wasserboxer electronics.  Exception being is six wires run
to an accelerator pedal.  I really don't see why everyone is so
phobic over that!  

The TDI is easier to troubleshoot than
the wasserboxer too.  Defective TDI thingie - VAG-COM will tell you
what's broken.  Defective wasserboxer thingie - you gotta think to
troubleshoot it... and a lot of people have problems with that.

David Marshall
VW Adventure Driver and BMW Adventure Rider


HasenWerk 
http://www.hasenwerk.ca

On Mon, January
4, 2010 11:06, Gary Bawden wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 Frank
Grunthaner wrote,
> 
>> Also, on my list of prejudices,
I cannot understand the m-TDi
>> approach.I=
>> 
have no fear of electronic control systems and modified
>>
wiringharnesses.=
>>  I really don't see why anyone who can
read a map cannot takeon the
>> proble=
>> m. Of
course you can screw it up, but that applies to ahundred other
>> steps=
>>  along the way to completion. Removing
theelectronic controls of the
>> TDi=
>>  design is
like leaving a free gift ofApple stock just because you
>>
don't=
>>  understand the basics of stockmarket trading.
> 
> There could be reasons other than
"electronophobia" for going with the
> manual TD setup.
Your analogy of the Apple stock I don't follow. It
> would be more
apt to say, leaving a brand-new Apple on everyone's
> doorstep may
benefit most, but the one on the porch of the successful
>
novelist who writes exclusively with pen and paper would do no good at
> all.
> 
> IMHO, "drive-by-wire" is more
about averaging everyone's fuel mileage
> than it is about
improving the mileage of those who learned to drive
> by feel and
gauge input. I say this as being the one whose fuel
> mileage was
thrown out as being "too high" in a fuel mileage survey
> done a year or two ago.  :^)
> 
> Gary
>