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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 2010 15:29:29 -0500
Reply-To:     mcneely4@COX.NET
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From:         Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET>
Subject:      Re: heading through the deep south soon, anyone on my route?
Comments: To: Craig Morton <rangermorton1972@YAHOO.COM>
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Caddo Lake State Park (and everything about Caddo Lake except the excess nutrients causing overgrowth of aquatic plants -- not noticable in winter) is excellent. Beaver's Bend in SE Oklahoma is another really nice state park. Lots of wildlife refuges, including all of Caddo Lake, Hagerman on Lake Texhoma, Tishomingo. Murray State Park in Oklahoma. The entire area west from Austin -- Hill Country (best is the SW portion around Leakey and RockSprings). Two noted, but heavily visited even in winter (by winter Texans) state parks down that way are Lost Maples State Natural Area, and Garner State Park. If you are able to go further west, Devil's River State Natural Area north of Del Rio is superb, with marvelous springs and pictographs on the cliff walls. Since you'll be in Ponca City, if you care for nature (wouldn't have a camper van otherwise, right), you should make the Tall Grass Prairie Preserve (a Nature Conservancy site) near Pawhuska. No camping there, but Osage State Park is nearby.

David McNeely

On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Craig Morton wrote:

> And another state park with interesting paddling that might be along > the route is Caddo Lake State Park on the TX/LA line: > http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/spdest/findadest/parks/caddo_lake/ >   > It's definitely not what you would expect to find in Texas. >   > Craig > > --- On Wed, 1/6/10, Mike South wrote: > > > From: Mike South Subject: Re: heading through the deep south soon, > anyone on my route? > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2010, 1:04 PM > > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Joy Hecht wrote: > >> Deep south, for me = Alabama & Mississippi.  Maybe Georgia? >> > > Speaking of Georgia, not sure if you'll be this far east, and I don't > remember what it was like in winter, but we used to rent canoes and > paddle > around in the Okefenokee swamp.  There was a very low-key state park > we > would drive to from Valdosta, Ga (entering on the west side of the > swamp). > I've never been anywhere like that before or since--you can paddle > right up > to the gators (not that I'm advising you to) completely unsupervised > and > basically silent.  I don't know if the gators will be out during the > winter, > but paddling in the black water among those trees would still be worth > a > significant detour in my opinion. > > mike > > >> Texas is visiting friends in Austin and Ft. Worth, and a cousin in >> Dallas. >> I've been to San Antonio - alas, over a very cold Christmas, when it >> snowed >> on the Mexican border.  Not much fun! >> >> Oklahoma, of course, is visiting Larry & Maggie in Ponca City! >> >> Colorado is visiting friends in Denver & Boulder. >> >> The deep south is the great unknown for me.... >> >> >> >> Joy >> >> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:24 PM, wrote: >> >>> Are you including Texas as part of the "Deep South"?  It's not of >>> course >>> (it's Texas, which is its own special place), but some folks from >>> the >> East >>> and the North consider it so out of ignorance.  If you want pointers >>> in >>> Texas and Oklahoma (also not part of the South of course), give me >>> an >> idea >>> of your route and whether you are looking for nature or other kinds >>> of >>> spots.  I can suggest places better with that information.  Lots of >> really >>> neat places of course. >>> >>> David McNeely >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Joy Hecht wrote: >>> >>>   Hi all, >>>> >>>> I'm planning to head across Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi & >>>> Louisiana to >>>> Texas late January-early February, en route to visit friends in >>>> Texas, >>>> Oklahoma, and Colorado. >>>> >>>> I'm interested in interesting suggestions on places to stop in the >>>> deep >>>> south.  I've been saying ever since I first traveled in my van that >>>> I >>>> wanted >>>> to spend some time in the south in the winter, and I've never >>>> actually >>>> done >>>> it.  I don't know how much time I'll actually end up with, but >>>> hopefully >>>> at >>>> least a couple of weeks for the Georgia-through-Mississippi >>>> stretch. (I >>>> have done a bit of exploring in Louisiana already.) >>>> >>>> Suggestions? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Joy >>>> and Matilda >>>> and the kayak, who would love to get out onto the water on the way >>>> as >>>> well... >>>> >>> >>


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