Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 19:01:55 -0600
Reply-To: Tom Hargrave <thargrav@HIWAAY.NET>
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From: Tom Hargrave <thargrav@HIWAAY.NET>
Subject: Re: fryday: SCAM?? (NVC)
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This is just another version of a scam that has been going on for a long
time. They send you a good size check and ask for a smaller amount in cash
for a driver, courier or whatever. You feel comfortable about the cash
withdraw because it's covered 3X - 5X by the value of the official looking
business check. You deposit the check, withdraw the cash, hand the cash over
to the courier and then later the check bounces. It's the cash that they are
really after.
For example:
Not long ago my business was send a check for $3,800 to cover an order for
CO2 tanks. Along with the check was a note stating that I should deposit the
check in my account, to call the number listed to arrange pick-up and that a
courier would come by to pick up the CO2 tanks along with $1,200 in cash
from me to cover the cost for shipping the CO2 tanks.
Now here's exactly how this works:
1) A long time ago the bad guys figured out the encryption for the routing
number and account number at the bottom of all checks.
2) And because the routing number & account number "check out" - they are
mathematically correct, your bank will take the deposit.
3) Then you withdraw the $1,200, pack up the goods and call the number.
4) The "courier" picks up the merchandise and the cash.
5) A few days later the check you deposited comes back marked "insufficient
funds" and you are out the product & the $1,200.
I turned the check over to the FBI and that stated that they see 100's of
these a month just in North Alabama. If there are 100's a month in North
Alabama then I wonder how much of this is going on across the country?
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
256-656-1924
Our Web Sites:
www.kegkits.com
www.stir-plate.com
www.andyshotsauce.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf Of
Scott Daniel - Turbovans
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 6:33 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: fryday: SCAM?? (NVC)
a far simpler method is to just 'smell' a scam in the first place.
The text of the mesage follows common scam tactics. Doesn't take a lot of
brains to see this is likely a scam.
There's article in today's paper about 'shopping survey' scams - a comany
purports to pay you to shop at Wallmart or wherever, then report back on
your experience. They send you money orders to go shopping with, which you
cash.
Then once you have an OK expereince, they change things a little and get
you to do it again. I forget the precise details of how it works, but a
local couple got scammed out of $ 3,200 this way.
you know what they say, if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
We talked about another 'can you tow' or 'can you store' a car scam on here
about 6 months ago.
That no-risk-to-you thing, if you don't like it, we'll pay you back, or
whatever it was.
there is just NO reason that an honest person will contact strangers out of
the blue with deals that come out in favor of the scamee.
These scam emails always seem to have the same rythym or flavor too.
There's a big 'formula board' in Nigeria .....
Similar to the the how-to-write a country song list ......you just plug in
various words here and there to fit the formula.
There are minor variations on the same theme, but it's the same general scam
deal over and over. Dateline or 60 minutes, one of those, Dateline I think,
actually went Nigeria to confront the scammers . ...individuals connected to
specific scam attempts. I don't think those guys are in jail today either.
the delete key is so easy to use !
frydae, frydae.
----- Original Message -----
From: "levi hawkins" <b1levi@YAHOO.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: fryday: SCAM?? (NVC)
Run a trace on his e-mail to get the e-mail origin, and check the phone #,
see if they match up to the same location.
--- On Fri, 1/8/10, JordanVw@AOL.COM <JordanVw@AOL.COM> wrote:
From: JordanVw@AOL.COM <JordanVw@AOL.COM>
Subject: fryday: SCAM?? (NVC)
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Date: Friday, January 8, 2010, 2:31 PM
im used to the Nigerian scams..but check this out.. scam or not?
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Subj: towing
Date: 1/7/10 7:32:34 AM Eastern Standard Time
From: johnway0089@yahoo.com
To: johnway0089@yahoo.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)
Hello
How are you doing?My name is John from LA (Lousiana),I would like to know
if you do tow car and have storage facility.I have 6 honda 2008 model that
that am shipping from LA.Kindly get back to me with with your the below
information for propal arrangement
YOUR NAME
SHOP ADDRESS
PHONE NUMBER
NEAREST AIRPORT
The shipping agent required the above information from me before they could
release the cars for shipping.Kindly get back to me on how much you charge
for towing from nearest airport to your shop and also with the amount your
charge for storage for 3days and also let me know the mode of payment
Waiting to hear from you
John Wayle
Cowbridge Rd,
SAFE N PEACE
917-267-2833
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what do y'all think??