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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 2010 20:35:57 -0800
Reply-To:     Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Motor Oil (Synthetic)
Comments: To: John Rodgers <inua@charter.net>
In-Reply-To:  <4B4BF9CE.2040701@charter.net>
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The Canuck solution is to make a small fire and let it burn down, then roll the vehicle over the coals and let the motor warm up.

Starts much better.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 8:25 PM, John Rodgers <inua@charter.net> wrote:

> I always had a problem with Alaska oil sump heaters in winter. They > don't work too good when you are at the winter campground in 3 feet of > snow at below zero temps. What is the Canuck solution for that problem. > I never did find an adequate Alaskan solution. > > > John Rodgers > Clayartist and Moldmaker > 88'GL VW Bus Driver > Chelsea, AL > Http://www.moldhaus.com > > > > Courtney Hook wrote: > >> Heheh, that's why you need a Canadian oil sump heater to keep your bus >> oil >> thinned out. :-) Tough to find, but oh so worth it. Most cold climate >> dealers sold them. Look around, you'll be glad you did. >> Courtney >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> Always be yourself, because the people that matter don't mind, >> and the ones who mind, don't matter. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "craig cowan" <phishman068@GMAIL.COM> >> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> >> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 6:13 PM >> Subject: Re: Motor Oil (Synthetic) >> >> >> My comment regarding cold temperatures dealt specifically with an >>> occurance >>> last year when the temperatures in my region were consistantly below >>> zero >>> for over a week. On the coldest morning of the lot, early, I tried to >>> start >>> my bus to no avail. My battery and all systems were in great shape, but >>> the >>> motor oil had turned so thick that the engine would BARELY turn. The >>> solution involved draining the motor oil and replacing it for the >>> remainder >>> of that winter with a thinner oil. >>> 20W50 is quite thick at or below 0*F. >>> Put a bit of it in the freezer sometime (even at 32*F) and watch just >>> how >>> smoothly it pours. >>> >>> -Craig >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote: >>> >>> My comment concerning warranty was meant to convey the maker's >>>> attitude, >>>> not to suggest that we are trying to maintain the long expired warranty >>>> on >>>> our VWs. I change oil myself, have been doing so for a series of >>>> vehicles >>>> for about 50 years, and have managed to drive all of them for around >>>> 200k >>>> or >>>> more miles. My change interval seems economic to me. Oil is cheap. >>>> Engines >>>> are expensive. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Allan Streib wrote: >>>> >>>> Synthetic will flow better than conventional when cold. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> None of our Vanagons are under warranty anymore. Oil analysis can be >>>>> used to determine if your oil is still "good" and over time you can >>>>> establish a reasonable, economic change interval. >>>>> >>>>> Allan >>>>> >>>>> Dave Mcneely writes: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I use Castrol 20W50, petroleum based (nonsynthetic). I change the >>>>> oil >>>>> >>>>>> every 3000 miles, just as I always have for all my vehicles. I can't >>>>>> imagine how synthetic could improve on that. I notice that most >>>>>> manufacturers specify that oil should be changed at the recommended >>>>>> interval, and that less often than that voids the warranty, whether >>>>>> the oil used is synthetic or not. David McNeely >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Stephen Cebula wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> What motor oils you you all use out there? A friend of mine keeps >>>>>> >>>>>>> pushing synthetic oil. He's a Ford man, and not familiar with >>>>>>> Vanagons. What's the rap on that? >>>>>>> Steve >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> 1991 Vanagon GL >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> >>

-- Jake

1984 Vanagon GL 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"

Crescent Beach, BC

www.thebassspa.com www.crescentbeachguitar.com http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27


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