Date:         Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:38:45 -0500
Reply-To:     Jonce Fancher <streetbugs@VERIZON.NET>
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From:         Jonce Fancher <streetbugs@VERIZON.NET>
Subject:      Fwd: Re: roadtrip
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>Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 08:22:57 -0500
>To: Bob Stevens <mtbiker62@GMAIL.COM>
>From: Jonce Fancher <streetbugs@verizon.net>
>Subject: Re: roadtrip
>
>I grew up in the SF bay area and every summer backpacked with my dad
>out of Yosemite "off trail" but remember the hoards of
>travelers/congestion (winter is a beautiful time to go to yosemite
>by the way) in Yosemite.  I know we will be going at prime season
>but that is also when the kids are off and we can do this kind of
>trip. I am not discouraged at all.  I have been to Grand Tetons and
>Yellowstone as a kid and want my kids/husband to see it as
>well.  Never been to Glacier National Park but have been wanting to
>go for a few years now.  The going is the adventure and everything
>else just add to it (good or bad). Thanks for the email.
>
>Dixie
>  At 08:12 AM 1/19/2010, you wrote:
>>Dixie,
>>Please don't take this as the "wet blanket" on your Yellowstone plans ....
>>all the advertising and online pix reveal the scenic and pristine nature
>>of that VERY interesting area. I'm fairly close to it (salt lake) so have
>>been several times and never get tired of it. The thing to be prepared
>>for, that Karl already mentioned, is the hordes of other people and
>>subsequent "reservations" for whatever you're going to do while there.
>>
>>I have been to Yosemite about 4 times in my life. Stopped in
>>last August on my way to another event in the Bay area and was
>>disappointed in my reaction to the people-pollution. I left. I was in
>>"The Village" for maybe 1 1/2 hours and had to get out of there.
>>Just completely over run with people scurrying around and that
>>really broke with my hope for being able to just see and experience
>>the incredible natural grandeur of the place. I ended up staying in
>>a campground within the park, over on the eastern side of it, so
>>had to view the spectacle at a distance. Porcupine is a pretty
>>cool campground but not The Village and what can be seen
>>and hiked to there.
>>
>>Not only will you have trouble finding places to camp/stay/eat if
>>you are going to plan to stay "in" Yellowstone, you will be dealing
>>with them while going on the many treks to see the geologic and
>>geothermal wonders of the area. Just be prepared for that so you
>>don't drive the long distance you are and end up overwhelmed by
>>the masses of folks.
>>
>>Really do hope you enjoy your journey and destination.
>>Safe travels.
>>
>>Bob Stevens
>>
>>Travel aside: I drove from Salt Lake City to Glenwood Springs, CO yesterday.
>>Left at 0630 and arrived at 1PM. Good travel time for 370 miles. Salt Lake
>>had a snow storm moving through and the effects of that continued until I
>>got
>>just west of Grand Junction, then the roads were very clear. Snow plows the
>>entire way. My point: there were 98 auto accidents in the Salt Lake area
>>Monday.
>>I saw 2 vehicles not-rubber-side-down. Obviously going waaaay to fast for
>>conditions and in pretty heavy commuter traffic, even though it was MLK Day.
>>Be wise .. take your trips but if there is weather, drive during daylight
>>hours
>>to improve your "odds" of safe travel and drive in accord with the
>>conditions.
>>I noticed that while driving in the very snowy conditions, if I just focused
>>on
>>where I was and those conditions, it was easy to drive safely. When I
>>started
>>thinking of how far it was to where I was going, I tended to lose focus and
>>my car was going about 5-10mph faster that safe for the conditions. Here
>>is hard to stay in sometimes. I want to think of there. Remember, there
>>just becomes another here once you're there.
>>
>>
>> >