Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 14:24:12 -0800
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: MYT (Massive Yet Tiny) Engine
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It's just amazing how the internal combustion Piston Engine hasn't really
been beat yet,
and even after over 100 years of development ...
still being developed more all the time,. with no end in sight.
when you put all the factors on one list -
cost to manufacture
size and weight for the power
reparability
durability
the energy contained in a gallon of diesel or gasoline fuel
and the power and range available in a tank of gas.
fast 'recharge time' too - only takes a few minutes to fill the tank.
wow.
and other advantages too probably.
it's not really been beat yet, not anywhere even close.
I say enjoy 'em while we can !
Scott
www.turbovans.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "neil n" <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: MYT (Massive Yet Tiny) Engine
> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 8:18 PM, John Bange <jbange@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> But ya, haven't found anything of it running on anything but compressed
>>> air.
>>>
>>>
>> Yeah, it's vapoware. It's been around for many years, and never has gone
>> beyond the "look, it runs on compressed air" stage. It's an interesting
>> concept, but just offhand I can tell you that sealing those piston
>> chambers
>> is likely a major long term reliability issue. The wankel is already a
>> headache, and it doesn't have a multidimensionally convoluted combustion
>> chamber seal.
>
>
> I'm a skeptic at heart in some ways. Posted the link partly because of
> the interesting mechanics behind it. But....
>
> Initially thought that even IF developed far enough to actually RUN on
> fossil or bio fuel w/o blowing up, (he claims 1K hours on 100% bio but
> no video??) simply letting out the clutch on a Vanagon might over
> stress mechanisms related to the pistons/discs. I imagine that with
> the weight savings, one could "afford" to build a pretty skookum
> shatter-shield around the engine. ;)
>
> Brings a whole new meaning to "piston slap" ;)
>
> Seems to me that something like a Suby diesel swap would be viable
> before something like this. I wish him luck though.
>
> And as per your comments, nothing new. Further reading (was news to me):
>
> "Swing-piston engine" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swing-piston_engine
>
> Neil.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Neil Nicholson '81 VanaJetta 2.0 "Jaco"
>
> http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/vanagons-with-vw-inline-4-cylinder-gas-engines
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