Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 17:10:05 -0800
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: Starter Help!
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the starter only hums, and doesn't crank the engine ?
and you are sure you are sending 12 volts to what I call the 'trigger
terminal' on the solenoid ?
it's a push-on spade connector.
you remove the medium large red/black wire from there, and connect you're
remote starter switch to that spade terminal,
then push the button.
should go -click, rrrr, rrrr'.
if it doesn't try the hammer whack trick.
if that doesn't make it go ...
besides the starter itself, consider battery strength and state of charge,
battery terminals , and ground strap at the front of the transmission.
I often test them next out of the van , like on the floor with jumper cables
and a good battery ...
though without a bushing to support the nose of the starter shaft.....you
shouldn't really do that.
if you want to look inside it, they come apart fairly easily.
What's inside can vary from 'oh my gosh this looks awful, how did it even
work at all' ........to 'sure looks almost new in here.'
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Plichta" <plichtakevin@HOTMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: Starter Help!
Not a problem.
Well I added a remote switch. From the alternator to the solenoid gave it
the best wacks that I would, it just humms. I am not sure what that is
telling me? Starter weak?
Thanks
Kevin
> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:50:53 -0800
> From: scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM
> Subject: Re: Starter Help!
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>
> darn !
> how did I miss that 91 info...
> my brain ....I need to do something !
>
> my apologies for wasting anyone's time there.
> Scott
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kevin Plichta
> To: scottdaniel@turbovans.com ; vw vanagon
> Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 1:36 PM
> Subject: RE: Starter Help!
>
>
> Thanks for the reply, I will work on a remote starter that I can do. I
> did say it was a 91, but it is stock 2.1 and manual 2 wheel.
> Thanks again
> Kevin
>
> > Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:21:05 -0800
> > From: scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM
> > Subject: Re: Starter Help!
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> >
> > a cheater trick and diagnostic thing -
> > use a Remote Stater Swtich ..
> > connected to battery hot lead on the starter ( I often use the nut on
> the
> > alternator , same thing ) and the 'starter trigger terminal' on the
> starter
> > solenoid,
> > and making sure it's in neutral and things are safe,
> > energize the starter with your Remote Starter swtich.
> >
> > if it doesn't go.
> > whack the starter on the side with a hammer.
> > If that makes it operate .......
> > so far, every time........that's been a bad starter.
> >
> > Do also consider the electrical part of your ignition switch ...those
> can be
> > weak for sure.
> > I simply could not fix vanagons without a Remote Starter Swtich ...
> > perfect for self-rescue, and diagnosis etc.
> >
> > you could also say year and model and version of vanagon.
> > I can't tell if you are talking about an air-cooled one,
> > a diesel, a 1.9 waterboxer, a 2.1 waterboxer, or one with an automatic
> > transmission., or a syncro ...etc.
> >
> > that info is always useful.
> >
> > replacing that cable from solenoid to starter motor.
> > I'm a little suspecios of that 'repair' myself.
> > that sounds like 'extending the life' of a pretty tired starter in the
> first
> > place.
> >
> > 'not normally done' is what I'd say.
> > those Bosch starters are so good....and last for so many years... ( I
> don't
> > even think about messing with a non-bosch rebuilt used starter if it's
> weak
> > , I just get a good Bosch Rebuilt one. )
> >
> > When one finally does give out ...
> > I only get Bosch Rebuilt Starters ..........and then it's good for a
> long,
> > long time.
> > 'Some' of the versions of vanaogn I mentioned above use a starter
> bushing in
> > the transalxe, some do not.
> > another reason why 'make, modle, and year' information is needed to
> comment
> > intelligently.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kevin Plichta" <plichtakevin@HOTMAIL.COM>
> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 12:35 PM
> > Subject: Starter Help!
> >
> >
> > My 91 starter not turning. I here the fuel pump come on, there is 12v
> at the
> > main starter lead and less than 4 at the solenoid when turning the
> key. When
> > I disconnect the solenoid lead and turn the key there 12v. So under a
> load
> > is when I think is the problem but what ?? I had the starter tested at
> a
> > shop and worked. Some history, this past fall the short braided cable
> > between the starter and solenoid was replaced at a shop.
> > Thanks again for your wisdom!!
> > Kevin Plichta
> >
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