Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:07:08 -0800
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: TIICO/ABA engine question
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there is a trend in modern gasoline cars toward turbo's again ...
mainly for good power out of a more fuel -effecient smaller engine.
Turbo's are way cool.
Totally magic........that it's a very aerodynamic device .....not even
physically connected by rods or whatever to the engine .
More complexiity too.
especially if an intercooler is fitted.
turbo's can wear out.
And idiot driving the snot out of a turbo engine, gas or diesel, can ruin
the turbo and engine in not too long a period if they really want to.
The oil needs to be better, it needs to be changed more, turob's need to be
cooled down a bit before shut down.
And the whole engine is built with having a turbo on it in mind - lower
compression ratio, piston oil scquirters, oil cooler etc.
my personal 'fast car' is an 88 turbo 740 Volvo sedan. Deomon of a car.
Steers like a fighter plane, has gearing and power galore.
And it's only about 160 hp, not evne much these days. It's totally happey at
80+ mph, has ABS vented disc brakes and all kinds of luxury and performance
goodies on it. It actully has 4 coolers on it besides the radiator. An
engine oil cooler, an intercooler the size of the radiator, a air
transmission oil cooler, and trans oil cooling through the radiator too.
Man, if a vanagon could steer and go like that car .....and that is 20 year
old tech now too !
last paragraph -re inline 4 cylinder gas engines in vanagons.
I have this 87 Jetta 1.8 16 valve engine I want to put in my own vanagon
someday, when I find time . quote unquote.
OK....peaky little engine, 123 hp at about 5,800 rpm.
I'm poking around this VW shop I just discovered the other day.
I see an engine lot like my 16 valve 1.8.
I ask the guy what it is. It's from a 92 jetta, and it's a two liter, And
uses EFI rather than the CIS-E mine has.
sounding better already.
then, the guy tells me, he's going to reubilt it with stronger rods, forged
lower compression pistons, and turbo it !
And he shows me a turbo off a 1.8 T modern VW gas turbo engine ...
probably more of a 'screamer' than I need,
but ....really 'turbo is fun.'
I ran my volvo sans-turbo for about 2 years. Ran just fine, still went as
fast as I could want.
but when I got the turbo back on ...
suddenly the response to throttle input is Exponential....
you give it say 60 % throttle ...that developes into 75 % as the boost comes
on. or more.
Very fun that way.
Turbo gas in fun.
That's what Subaru WRX's are.......and they can be pushed to totally obscene
levels of power.
'Ken Black' ...I think that's the name ....check out some of his hot WRX
videos.
Enough power to spin all four wheels 'all the time' ......almost at any
speed.
Those cars have cockpit adjustble front-rear bias on the AWD ...
you can go from 0 front and 100 % rear, to anywhere in between. Just turn a
little knob on the console.
Crasy man.
but ........if you take care of it, turbo is fun, and nice.
later,
scott
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Hanson" <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: TIICO/ABA engine question
> What is "Nasty" about a turbo? Inquiring minds want to know. Seems like
> all around the world they are getting plenty of powerful and dependable
> and
> economical service from turbo vehicles of various makes and models. Not
> so
> many are sold here in the US because (guessing here) 'Murikans like BIG
> motors still...
> Don Hanson
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Jake de Villiers <
> crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Subaru 2.5 has 165 ft. lbs of torque right off idle and 165 hp up top -
>> no
>> nasty turbo required! =)
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 8:36 AM, David Marshall
>> <mailinglist@fastforward.ca>wrote:
>>
>> > The ABA cam is already optimized for lower end power. Even the cams
>> > from the 1.8L arn't as nice as the ABA for the low end. No idea what
>> > the RemTec motor is setup for.
>> >
>> > You have 122 ft.lbs of
>> > toque which really isn't much to write home about compared to the wbx
>> > 117
>> > - only way to get much more torque is getting a turbo engine, a little
>> > more torque would come from chip tuning.
>> >
>> > David Marshall
>> > VW
>> > Adventure Driver and BMW Adventure Rider
>> >
>> > HasenWerk
>> > http://www.hasenwerk.ca
>> >
>> > On Thu, February 11, 2010 08:20,
>> > Chris S wrote:
>> > > Folks,
>> > >
>> > > Does anyone know how
>> > the TIICO camshaft compare the ABA cam? Does anyone
>> > > have the
>> > specs, like lift, duration etc?
>> > >
>> > > I'm trying to analyze
>> > ways to increase torque and bottom end power of the
>> > > ABA.
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Chris S.
>> > > Disclaimer: "Death
>> > and serious injury may occur"
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jake
>>
>> 1984 Vanagon GL
>> 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
>>
>> Crescent Beach, BC
>>
>> www.thebassspa.com
>> www.crescentbeachguitar.com
>> http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27
>>
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