Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 08:37:05 -0600
Reply-To: mcneely4@COX.NET
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From: Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET>
Subject: Re: Problem installing a baby seat - resolution (for now anyway)
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What is an "I clip"? Sorry to be so ignorant, but that is my usual state regarding all things mechanical. David Mc
---- Markus Benne <mbenne@M-BASS.COM> wrote:
> Thanks Annie!
>
> Using the instructions you supplied on the use of the I-clip for seatbelt shortening
> as inspiration, I was able to shorten the length of the female part of the seatbelt.
>
> Unfortunately not as short as those instruction (I was missing about 3mm
> of length in order complete maneuver 4; I might be able to stretch the
> belt overnight) but in step 2, instead of feeding it through again, I
> just looped it over the ends as is done in step 4.
>
> That took over 2" out of the length and that is enough to tighten the
> belt securely.
>
> Upshot is nothing cut or relocated or fabricated, although I think all
> of those done properly would have been ok too.
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
> ...Markus (and Emma)
>
> Annie wrote:
> > Here are instructions on using the I clip as a belt shortener:
> >
> > *To use a belt-shortening clip*
> > First, push the vehicle seat all the way back on it's track if possible.
> > Apply weight to the child safety seat, buckle the belt and pull the
> > webbing all the way out of the retractor
> > Make a loop of ALL the excess belt, and either hold it tightly or mark
> > the loop to know where the belt-shortening clip should go.
> >
> > 1. Unbuckle the belt and thread the loop up through the bottom of
> > one side of the clip, then down over the other side.
> > 2. Double-back the loop over the second set of "arms" on the clip.
> > 3. Place the *inside* webbing of the loop back in the first side of
> > the clip.
> > 4. Pull the *inside* (underneath) webbing tight.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Place the clip anywhere on the belt so that it lies flat, is not close
> > to the child's face or body, and is convenient for the belt path and
> > easy for the installer to install.
> > Rebuckle the belt and test the child safety seat to be sure it's
> > tight. If not, repeat steps 2-6.
> > For the tightest fit, move the vehicle seat forward on it's track.
> >
> > ~Annie
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Markus Benne <mbenne@m-bass.com
> > <mailto:mbenne@m-bass.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Sorry, the issue is kind of hard to describe.
> >
> > Yeah, the male part can be tightened no problem, but that does not
> > change the location of the buckle and that is what interferes with a
> > corner on the car seat. The buckle is in exactly the wrong spot. A
> > shorter strap on the female side would help. Most modern cars
> > have the
> > buckle right near the base of the seat where the seat base meats the
> > backrest. The bus has the buckle about 4" past the seat base/backrest
> > location.
> >
> > Annie, I think the I-piece is to keep the shoulder strap in a fixed
> > position to the lap belt, but in the rear of the car, there is only a
> > lap belt so I don't think the part would help (happy to be wrong
> > though).
> >
> > I'm thinking of having a bracket made that would relocate the female
> > section down a couple inches where it fastens to the body of the bus.
> > It would be cheaper than a new car seat.
> >
> > Thanks for hints so far.
> >
> > ...Markus
> >
> > Bob Stevens wrote:
> >
> > I may not be getting the full picture, or even getting the
> > picture at
> > all, but ....
> > does the male-belt strap have any adjustment to it so you can just
> > tighten or
> > loosen to suit your needs?
> >
> > bob
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Markus Benne
> > <mbenne@m-bass.com <mailto:mbenne@m-bass.com>
> > <mailto:mbenne@m-bass.com <mailto:mbenne@m-bass.com>>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm having a problem installing the baby seat.
> >
> > The buckle is at a very awkward location relative to the baby
> > seat. The
> > problem (really my poor choice of seat, I guess) is that
> > the Vanagon
> > buckle is about 10" long and extends past the seat a long
> > way. By
> > buckle I mean the female part of the seat belt with the
> > push button
> > clasp. I guess I could look at a generic.
> >
> > Does anyone know where I can get a shorter buckle (6" or
> > 8") that
> > would
> > work with the vw parts?
> >
> > Any other ideas?
> >
> > I'm using the gowesty tether which appears to be pretty good.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > ...Markus
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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