Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 07:56:49 -0800
Reply-To: Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Problem installing a baby seat - resolution (for now anyway)
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Typing "seat belt I clip" in the Google search window (www.google.com - a
very helpful site!) returns this result:
http://www.carseatsite.com/lockingclips.htm
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 6:37 AM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote:
> What is an "I clip"? Sorry to be so ignorant, but that is my usual state
> regarding all things mechanical. David Mc
>
> ---- Markus Benne <mbenne@M-BASS.COM> wrote:
> > Thanks Annie!
> >
> > Using the instructions you supplied on the use of the I-clip for seatbelt
> shortening
> > as inspiration, I was able to shorten the length of the female part of
> the seatbelt.
> >
> > Unfortunately not as short as those instruction (I was missing about 3mm
> > of length in order complete maneuver 4; I might be able to stretch the
> > belt overnight) but in step 2, instead of feeding it through again, I
> > just looped it over the ends as is done in step 4.
> >
> > That took over 2" out of the length and that is enough to tighten the
> > belt securely.
> >
> > Upshot is nothing cut or relocated or fabricated, although I think all
> > of those done properly would have been ok too.
> >
> > Thanks a lot!
> >
> > ...Markus (and Emma)
> >
> > Annie wrote:
> > > Here are instructions on using the I clip as a belt shortener:
> > >
> > > *To use a belt-shortening clip*
> > > First, push the vehicle seat all the way back on it's track if
> possible.
> > > Apply weight to the child safety seat, buckle the belt and pull the
> > > webbing all the way out of the retractor
> > > Make a loop of ALL the excess belt, and either hold it tightly or mark
> > > the loop to know where the belt-shortening clip should go.
> > >
> > > 1. Unbuckle the belt and thread the loop up through the bottom of
> > > one side of the clip, then down over the other side.
> > > 2. Double-back the loop over the second set of "arms" on the clip.
> > > 3. Place the *inside* webbing of the loop back in the first side of
> > > the clip.
> > > 4. Pull the *inside* (underneath) webbing tight.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Place the clip anywhere on the belt so that it lies flat, is not close
> > > to the child's face or body, and is convenient for the belt path and
> > > easy for the installer to install.
> > > Rebuckle the belt and test the child safety seat to be sure it's
> > > tight. If not, repeat steps 2-6.
> > > For the tightest fit, move the vehicle seat forward on it's track.
> > >
> > > ~Annie
> > >
> > > On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Markus Benne <mbenne@m-bass.com
> > > <mailto:mbenne@m-bass.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Sorry, the issue is kind of hard to describe.
> > >
> > > Yeah, the male part can be tightened no problem, but that does not
> > > change the location of the buckle and that is what interferes with
> a
> > > corner on the car seat. The buckle is in exactly the wrong spot.
> A
> > > shorter strap on the female side would help. Most modern cars
> > > have the
> > > buckle right near the base of the seat where the seat base meats
> the
> > > backrest. The bus has the buckle about 4" past the seat
> base/backrest
> > > location.
> > >
> > > Annie, I think the I-piece is to keep the shoulder strap in a fixed
> > > position to the lap belt, but in the rear of the car, there is only
> a
> > > lap belt so I don't think the part would help (happy to be wrong
> > > though).
> > >
> > > I'm thinking of having a bracket made that would relocate the
> female
> > > section down a couple inches where it fastens to the body of the
> bus.
> > > It would be cheaper than a new car seat.
> > >
> > > Thanks for hints so far.
> > >
> > > ...Markus
> > >
> > > Bob Stevens wrote:
> > >
> > > I may not be getting the full picture, or even getting the
> > > picture at
> > > all, but ....
> > > does the male-belt strap have any adjustment to it so you can
> just
> > > tighten or
> > > loosen to suit your needs?
> > >
> > > bob
> > >
> > > On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Markus Benne
> > > <mbenne@m-bass.com <mailto:mbenne@m-bass.com>
> > > <mailto:mbenne@m-bass.com <mailto:mbenne@m-bass.com>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm having a problem installing the baby seat.
> > >
> > > The buckle is at a very awkward location relative to the
> baby
> > > seat. The
> > > problem (really my poor choice of seat, I guess) is that
> > > the Vanagon
> > > buckle is about 10" long and extends past the seat a long
> > > way. By
> > > buckle I mean the female part of the seat belt with the
> > > push button
> > > clasp. I guess I could look at a generic.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know where I can get a shorter buckle (6" or
> > > 8") that
> > > would
> > > work with the vw parts?
> > >
> > > Any other ideas?
> > >
> > > I'm using the gowesty tether which appears to be pretty
> good.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > ...Markus
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
--
Jake
1984 Vanagon GL
1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
Crescent Beach, BC
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