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Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 2010 08:15:17 -0500
Reply-To:     David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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From:         David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
Subject:      Re: testing Hall sender
Comments: To: Raymond Paquette <raymondpaquette@GMAIL.COM>
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Dear Raymond,

Sorry not to answer earlier.

At 07:43 AM 2/25/2010, Raymond Paquette wrote: >no spark >no sound from injectors (that I can hear-is it reasonably loud?)

It's a quiet little tick. Very easy to hear with a mechanic's stethoscope (or screwdriver), maybe not so easy without.

>fuel pump cycles on and off at consistent points in the engine revolution

That says that the pulses from the distributor are getting to the ECU and being processed.

Check the coil negative for pulses using a neon test light. Or get your brother-in-law to wet his finger and test the coil negative that way. If it's working and he grounds the same hand (to keep away from the heart) he'll definitely notice it. If no pulse, check it for +12 with ignition on and engine motionless. If none, check the coil + terminal for +12.

If you're getting +12 on both sides of the coil but no pulses, that pretty much leaves it to the ECU itself or wiring from ECU to coil, especially if the injectors are firing. I would be completely unsurprised if you had a bad solder joint on the ignition driver transistor (and probably lots of other ones too). If the injectors aren't firing, still points to ECU internals or bad connections. One side of the injectors should be at +12 continuous; the other side pulses to ground in order to fire the injector.

I recently examined five ECUs of varying age, both Bosch and T-A. I found many many solder joints with fatigue failure in all of them.

Yours, David


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