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Miguel
I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.
- Thomas A. Edison
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Robert Fisher <garciasghostvw@gmail.com> wrote:
> I dunno why you keep harping on that grommet. There are several places where
> VW themselves did that on the Vanagon, and on my '87 with 360K miles they're
> still in pretty good shape. I and my van will both be long in our respective
> eternal resting places before those rubber pieces wear through each other,
> especially if you hit them with a little lube now and again while you're
> going about the rest of your maintenance chores.
> I actually hooked my fuel line up under the firewall first just to see how
> it looked to me, and I saw my choices were either to leave it flopping
> around or to secure it to something. A zip tie or the like is a lot more
> likely to wear into the fuel line imo, so I went with the grommet.
>
> For those that are interested I used the Dorman 'Help!' piece, part # 42055
> (for 'various GM models 1983-76') that I found at Autozone; you should be
> able to get it at almost any FLAPS.
>
> Cya,
> Robert
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Scott Daniel - Turbovans
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 12:34 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: question about thermostat ... or not
>
> you just bypass that firewall fitting gizmo.
>
> just forward of it is the plastic fuel line coming from the pump.
> Just go straight from that line to the engine, bypassing the firewall
> fitting.
>
> And I recommend just run the new fuel hose around the firewall.
> no sense in putting a rubber grommet in the firewall hole, and running the
> hose through it -- just making another spot that can wear and eventually
> cause a fuel leak.
>
> re clamps on injectors.
> I just found a running one, with the screw missing from the hose clamp !
> So old fuel hose, that's hard and aged, can hold up to 35 or so psi without
> a clamp.
>
> scary !
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roger Whittaker" <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 9:58 AM
> Subject: Re: question about thermostat ... or not
>
>
>> dear miguel
>> i did NOT replace plastic fitting ...
>> i did not realize it was required to be replaced ...
>> what i did was remove it and then put it back with niew hose on either
>> side
>> ...
>> if i were to splice there ... which i could easily do ... i would require
>> a
>> push on fitting like the sort on the end of the injector ...
>> i thought it funny there were no clamps on the injector itself ... but
>> push
>> on fittings are push on ...
>>
>> now as i think about it i am recalling reading that that plastic bit was
>> for
>> production purposes ... grr bad roger
>> but i could get a two ended push on fitting to splice...
>> thanks for the heads up ...
>> yours
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 2:20 AM, miguel pacheco
>> <mundopacheco@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Roger, I wanted to address your comment regarding fuel line
>>> replacement. If I'm reading correctly, you ran new hose from the fuel
>>> tank to the firewall. Does this mean that you inserted the fuel line
>>> into the plastic teat that is bolted to the firewall? I'm assuming
>>> you know that you need to eliminate this teat and go with new hose all
>>> the way to the injectors, then out to the fuel regulator, then out of
>>> the regulator, at least to the other side of the firewall. Old fuel
>>> hose and the plastic teat (both perilously residing inside your engine
>>> compartment) were your main threat and still are.
>>> Miguel
>>>
>>> I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.
>>> - Thomas A. Edison
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 2:00 AM, Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > dear dennis
>>> > yes other problems are certainly afoot
>>> > i purchased a vanagon with a reported new engine ... indeed less than
>>> 1000
>>> > miles on it ...
>>> > unfortunately ... the person who did the engine work replaced ony one
>>> > or
>>> two
>>> > hoses and very little else ..
>>> > today i replaced all fuel lines from tank outlet to the just behind the
>>> > firewall grommet ... including new injector seals etc ..
>>> > so tonight as i was checking for perfection of fuel line replacement
>>> > ....
>>> we
>>> > noticed a smoke like stuff coming from around the fitting that joins
>>> > the
>>> > block to the thermostat housing ... off to part store to get new hose
>>> > to
>>> > replace because some lazy mechanic fixed with some disintegrating stuff
>>> that
>>> > was decomposing and burning off ... but until now had gone un noticed
>>> > due
>>> to
>>> > all the other stuff that required attention drawing our concentration
>>> > ...
>>> > so what is actually wrong with thermostat .... it is seized ...
>>> discovered
>>> > by boiling and then closly inspecting under brighter light
>>> > in the pot it doesnt even move ...
>>> > this van had not moved in several years ...
>>> > so there are some issues ...
>>> > and yes tires replaced to get ride of old weathered ones ...
>>> > yours
>>> > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com
>>> >wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I have to ask how you find yourself in a situation that you suddenly
>>> need a
>>> >> thermostat with an engine that only has 1,000 miles on it and you also
>>> now
>>> >> have to go on a trip. Thermostats do not suddenly fail without cause
>>> >> so
>>> >> what
>>> >> are the symptoms?
>>> >>
>>> >> The waterboxer thermostat is not a simple open/close device. It is
>>> really
>>> >> used as a mixing valve and the goal is to continuously circulate water
>>> in
>>> >> the engine to maintain constant temperatures between the heads and the
>>> rest
>>> >> of the engine. As the thermostat opens to allow flow to the radiator
>>> >> it
>>> >> also
>>> >> closes a bypass. The design keeps temperatures close throughout. Not
>>> only
>>> >> is
>>> >> it important to maintain temperature but an uncontrolled rush of cold
>>> >> coolant from the radiator to hot heads can spell certain trouble.
>>> >> Also,
>>> >> without the bypass closing you may not get enough flow at idle or
>>> >> during
>>> >> hill climbs to properly cool the engine especially if you have the
>>> radiator
>>> >> partly blocked off. There are a lot of dynamics going on here.
>>> >>
>>> >> My bet is that if you suddenly experienced cooling systems problems
>>> while
>>> >> on
>>> >> your trip the thermostat is not your only problem if that is even the
>>> >> problem at all. Something else is going on.
>>> >>
>>> >> Dennis
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
>>> >> Behalf
>>> Of
>>> >> Roger Whittaker
>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 10:19 AM
>>> >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> >> Subject: question about thermostat ... or not
>>> >>
>>> >> dear fellow vanagoners
>>> >>
>>> >> i am in a position where i am making a 20 hour drive with out the
>>> >> thermostat
>>> >> in place on a 1984 vanagon
>>> >> with a 2.1 digifant replacement engine (2005) with less than 1000
>>> >> miles
>>> on
>>> >> it ...
>>> >>
>>> >> benny boy says the thermostat is crucial to proper performance of
>>> injector
>>> >> system
>>> >> then he writes about living in very cold quebec ...
>>> >>
>>> >> i am in the very pleasant northwest ...
>>> >>
>>> >> i will of course replace thermostat with proper item once back home
>>> >>
>>> >> will 20 hour drive cause problems ...
>>> >> what about a four hour drive to get parts then ???
>>> >> yours
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> roger w
>>> >> From Proverbs:
>>> >> Under three things the earth trembles, under four it cannot bear up: a
>>> >> servant who becomes king ...
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>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > roger w
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> roger w
>> From Proverbs:
>> Under three things the earth trembles, under four it cannot bear up: a
>> servant who becomes king ...
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