Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:58:53 -0800
Reply-To: Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: question about thermostat ... or not
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dear miguel
i did NOT replace plastic fitting ...
i did not realize it was required to be replaced ...
what i did was remove it and then put it back with niew hose on either side
...
if i were to splice there ... which i could easily do ... i would require a
push on fitting like the sort on the end of the injector ...
i thought it funny there were no clamps on the injector itself ... but push
on fittings are push on ...
now as i think about it i am recalling reading that that plastic bit was for
production purposes ... grr bad roger
but i could get a two ended push on fitting to splice...
thanks for the heads up ...
yours
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 2:20 AM, miguel pacheco <mundopacheco@gmail.com>wrote:
> Roger, I wanted to address your comment regarding fuel line
> replacement. If I'm reading correctly, you ran new hose from the fuel
> tank to the firewall. Does this mean that you inserted the fuel line
> into the plastic teat that is bolted to the firewall? I'm assuming
> you know that you need to eliminate this teat and go with new hose all
> the way to the injectors, then out to the fuel regulator, then out of
> the regulator, at least to the other side of the firewall. Old fuel
> hose and the plastic teat (both perilously residing inside your engine
> compartment) were your main threat and still are.
> Miguel
>
> I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.
> - Thomas A. Edison
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 2:00 AM, Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > dear dennis
> > yes other problems are certainly afoot
> > i purchased a vanagon with a reported new engine ... indeed less than
> 1000
> > miles on it ...
> > unfortunately ... the person who did the engine work replaced ony one or
> two
> > hoses and very little else ..
> > today i replaced all fuel lines from tank outlet to the just behind the
> > firewall grommet ... including new injector seals etc ..
> > so tonight as i was checking for perfection of fuel line replacement ....
> we
> > noticed a smoke like stuff coming from around the fitting that joins the
> > block to the thermostat housing ... off to part store to get new hose to
> > replace because some lazy mechanic fixed with some disintegrating stuff
> that
> > was decomposing and burning off ... but until now had gone un noticed due
> to
> > all the other stuff that required attention drawing our concentration ...
> > so what is actually wrong with thermostat .... it is seized ...
> discovered
> > by boiling and then closly inspecting under brighter light
> > in the pot it doesnt even move ...
> > this van had not moved in several years ...
> > so there are some issues ...
> > and yes tires replaced to get ride of old weathered ones ...
> > yours
> > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> I have to ask how you find yourself in a situation that you suddenly
> need a
> >> thermostat with an engine that only has 1,000 miles on it and you also
> now
> >> have to go on a trip. Thermostats do not suddenly fail without cause so
> >> what
> >> are the symptoms?
> >>
> >> The waterboxer thermostat is not a simple open/close device. It is
> really
> >> used as a mixing valve and the goal is to continuously circulate water
> in
> >> the engine to maintain constant temperatures between the heads and the
> rest
> >> of the engine. As the thermostat opens to allow flow to the radiator it
> >> also
> >> closes a bypass. The design keeps temperatures close throughout. Not
> only
> >> is
> >> it important to maintain temperature but an uncontrolled rush of cold
> >> coolant from the radiator to hot heads can spell certain trouble. Also,
> >> without the bypass closing you may not get enough flow at idle or during
> >> hill climbs to properly cool the engine especially if you have the
> radiator
> >> partly blocked off. There are a lot of dynamics going on here.
> >>
> >> My bet is that if you suddenly experienced cooling systems problems
> while
> >> on
> >> your trip the thermostat is not your only problem if that is even the
> >> problem at all. Something else is going on.
> >>
> >> Dennis
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
> Of
> >> Roger Whittaker
> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 10:19 AM
> >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> >> Subject: question about thermostat ... or not
> >>
> >> dear fellow vanagoners
> >>
> >> i am in a position where i am making a 20 hour drive with out the
> >> thermostat
> >> in place on a 1984 vanagon
> >> with a 2.1 digifant replacement engine (2005) with less than 1000 miles
> on
> >> it ...
> >>
> >> benny boy says the thermostat is crucial to proper performance of
> injector
> >> system
> >> then he writes about living in very cold quebec ...
> >>
> >> i am in the very pleasant northwest ...
> >>
> >> i will of course replace thermostat with proper item once back home
> >>
> >> will 20 hour drive cause problems ...
> >> what about a four hour drive to get parts then ???
> >> yours
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> roger w
> >> From Proverbs:
> >> Under three things the earth trembles, under four it cannot bear up: a
> >> servant who becomes king ...
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> >
> > --
> > roger w
> > From Proverbs:
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> > servant who becomes king ...
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--
roger w
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