Date:         Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:11:42 -0800
Reply-To:     Robert Fisher <garciasghostvw@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Robert Fisher <garciasghostvw@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: All Grown up with solder and shrink tubing
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I tried putting a pair of 6.5" speakers in the rear hatch of a small station
wagon many years ago and it was no good at all. You had to drive them hard
to even hear them since they were more than 10' away, with seats and such
blocking the sound, which also caused a lot of varying frequency loss. If
you aren't using an outboard amp you're probably going to get all kinds of
distortion from overdriving the head amp, so even if you can hear it, it
wouldn't sound good. Your passengers in the rear will get high-volume
distorted noise and you in the driver's seat won't get much of anything.
Also, putting two speakers in the same box nullifies the stereo imaging
effect.

I was thinking about how they do speaker arrangements now in many modern
cars; they seem to favor several smaller speakers around the cabin instead
of the old way of banks of larger speakers which seems to be an attempt to
duplicate what I tend to think of as a 60s/70s home speaker mentality. I
noticed from somebody's pictures that VW had done that in the Eurovan.

I've been in minivans that had rear volume controls for small speaker sets
near each seat row. I wonder if it wouldn't be more effective in a Vanagon
to duplicate that, particularly given the stock setup in the front. I was
thinking that better-quality stock-sized speakers in the  front doors with
satellite tweeters and similar arrangements in the various side panels in
the back (with subs), with separate volume controls might be better than the
old system of four larger speaker banks all controlled from the front.

Cya,
Robert

-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Bill Shawley
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 1:26 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: All Grown up with solder and shrink tubing

Installed a new stereo in the van today, I was all proud of myself for using
a solder iron and shrink tubing when wiring the connector plug to the
existing wiring.  I had to laugh when I was done and realized the plug for
my old JVC stereo is exactly the same as the one for the Sony stereo I
installed, I didn't have to rewire anything had I paid attention!



It is for the better though, things are much cleaner under the dash and I
did do away with a few shoddy bits of wiring.



Has anyone mounted speakers in the rear hatch panel?  I have some 6 1/2 inch
speakers I want to mount, I thought about the box under the rear bench but
I'm worried about all the crap I keep in there damaging the speakers.



Ryan

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