Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:18:58 -0600
Reply-To: Max Wellhouse <dimwittedmoose@CFU.NET>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Max Wellhouse <dimwittedmoose@CFU.NET>
Subject: Re: No fly-by-wire in MY vanagon.
In-Reply-To: <c4bcbeef81508253c8d605a938ebcc74.squirrel@hasenwerk.homeip .net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
...and we could go back to Ralph Nader and the Corvair. I'd be
curious to see if Ford and the other two aren't fanning the flames of
this Toyota debacle. Their ads are certainly capitalizing on it and
not so subliminally.
We'll continue to drive our hail-damaged 99 Corolla with manual
windows and no cruise control until it dies of rust. Then we'll find
another one.
The only thing with Toyota that bothers me is the allegations that
they covered up the recall need at the corporate level. I would need
to see proof of that before changing my mind.
DM&FS
At 11:08 AM 3/13/2010, David Marshall wrote:
>It's all crap. 110% crap.
>
>There is no concrete proof of Audi
>with unattended acceleration - 60 Minutes blew that out of proportion.
>
>Yes, Toyota is having stuck accelerator issues which is
>solved. Some technicians have INCORRECTLY INSTALLED some of the
>fixes and that's not the error of drive by wire or Toyota. I have to
>LAUGH at the people who call into 911 and say their car is racing out of
>control down the highway. Do they do it for their 90 seconds of fame
>on CNN? If for some reason your accelerator pedal is stuck what's
>wrong with turning OFF the ignition key or if it is a push button stop and
>that doesn't work, put the car in NEUTRAL so the owner can apply the
>brakes and stop!? So freaking obvious if you ask me!
>
>None of these Toyota issues are from drive by wire accelerator pedals -
>or at least the FUNCTION of drive by wire - they are all MECHANICAL
>issues.
>
>None of these issues are truly as big as they
>are Fox and CNN have to sell advertising and there for they blow up a
>small or regular sized story into a supersized one so they they can
>ENTERTAIN you from other people's misfortune.
>
>I had my
>wasserboxer accelerator pedal stick before - water got into it and froze
>and the engine wouldn't stop revving. I guess I should have called
>my lawyer and then CNN and made a big fuss out of it. That same
>issue will never happen with the drive by wire pedal I have now. I
>did have a pedal break on me before - splashed it, it got water inside of
>it and the computer when ERROR and stopped recieving input from the pedal
>and made the engine idle at 950 rpm - good plan Bosch / Volkswagen!
>No crash, no sudden stop, no acceleration just a controlled no more pedal
>input and I could safely go to the side of the road. No CNN, no
>lawyers, no police or faux drama.
>
>Do you fly? Boeing and
>Airbus for well over a decade is now fly by wire. Perhaps that's why
>those planes flew into the world trade centers? Quick - call
>CNN - there's a connection there!
>
>David Marshall
>VW
>Adventure Driver and BMW Adventure Rider
>
>HasenWerk
>http://www.hasenwerk.ca
>
>On Sat, March 13, 2010 08:44, Al
>Knoll wrote:
> > With all the kerfluffle over unintended
>acceleration, I'm sure glad
> > that my van is NOT fly by wire
>throttle control. Remembering the Audi
> > stuff long ago, it seems
>it was decided that the problem ONLY occurred
> > in AUDIs with
>automatic transmissions. Kinda like pouring coffee in
> > your
>nether regions and claiming it was the coffee sellers fault.
> >
> > More here
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/yzm2rb2
> >
>
> > Sometimes simple is best. (not referring to group members,
>just in
> > general)
> >
> > Pensionerd. (has
>removable passenger side airbag)
> >
| 
