Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:23:08 -0700
Reply-To: Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: first try = first run = no running anymore
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Don't take this the wrong way but you have the wires going to the right
cylinders, right?
http://z.about.com/w/experts/Volkswagen-801/2009/01/VW-Firing-Order.png
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Ry <rylincoln@gmail.com> wrote:
> Gave Jake's suggestion a try. Same result, It sounds like maybe only one
> cylinder fires. I was home on lunch break so that's all I did. I have a
> friend coming over at 4pm so that he can crank and I can check for spark at
> each plug.
>
> I think unknowingly I damaged the hall sensor. I think this because when I
> removed the distributor to inspect it last night I couldn't easily turn the
> center shaft until i tweaked the metal cup with the cutouts a bit. Maybe It
> got banged while I had it stored in a box waiting for the new engine.
>
> :-|
>
> -Ry
> http://www.google.com/profiles/rylincoln
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Jake de Villiers <
> crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sounds like the timing's maybe a little advanced - retard it 3/8" of an
>> inch and see what happens.
>>
>> Clockwise would be retard.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Ry <rylincoln@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the help folks. I'm still troubleshooting it. Mark, I DO have
>>> my
>>> transmission filled with oil, I promise, rigged up a nice long hose and
>>> big
>>> funnel hanging from rear a/c grating worked great for filling it up.
>>> Miguel, I removed the plugs and #2 and #4 were carbon coated more than
>>> the
>>> rest, I cleaned them all. Scott thanks for the advice on raising the
>>> rearend and letting the wheels spin a bit to get the oil all up in brand
>>> new
>>> transmission, I'll be doing that once I get the engine started again.
>>>
>>>
>>> Here's a photo of my distributor and TDC settings.
>>> http://is.gd/aM4Dz
>>>
>>> And some audio of me cranking the engine with timing set by eye as best I
>>> know how. It fires just a little bit.
>>> http://is.gd/aM4Cs
>>>
>>> Thanks again to all.
>>>
>>> -Ry
>>> http://www.google.com/profiles/rylincoln
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Benny boy <huotb@videotron.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>> > When something work and you move/touch something and it's stop working,
>>> go
>>> > back in time and put it the way it was before. Double check what you
>>> did
>>> > that could have created the problem.
>>> >
>>> > Timing may be way off and it was somewhat ok with the plug wire not at
>>> the
>>> > right position. Now you need to make sure TDC is right and concord with
>>> the
>>> > rotor/distributor cap.
>>> >
>>> > What is wrong now is timing. Maybe the distributor gear is not align?
>>> >
>>> > The basic of TDC
>>> > http://www.benplace.com/tdc.htm
>>> >
>>> > Ben
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:31:47 -0500, Ry <rylincoln@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > >ok so I made a mistake. i had the spark plugs hooked up on the
>>> > distributor
>>> > >cap so that it was firing 1-2-3-4 instead of 1-4-3-2 even though I
>>> KNEW
>>> > >what it was supposed to be, just a late evening working all day
>>> shoulda
>>> > >taken a break mistake.
>>> > >
>>> > >Thing is it started right up that way though was rough and a bit
>>> loud(now
>>> > i
>>> > >know why!).
>>> > >Now that I got it all hooked up proper like, it doesn't want to start,
>>> it
>>> > >has sputtered a few times. :( did i do something awful?
>>> > >
>>> > >I'm letting it rest right now and charging the batter(i didn't try so
>>> long
>>> > >that i let the battery go dead, just knew it hadn't been charged in
>>> more
>>> > >than a month)
>>> > >
>>> > >sigh... any hep?
>>> > >-Ry
>>> > >http://www.google.com/profiles/rylincoln
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:34 PM, mark drillock <mdrillock@cox.net>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >> I hope you did manage to put oil in the tranny before running the
>>> engine
>>> > >> much. You can ruin the dry tranny without driving the van, since the
>>> > engine
>>> > >> will always turn the tranny mainshaft.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Mark
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Ry wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >>> Update:
>>> > >>> A few loose bolts on engine tin, timing not dialed in yet, coolant
>>> > system
>>> > >>> needs to be bled some more(not that hard imho) and DOH i forgot to
>>> put
>>> > >>> trans
>>> > >>> oil in BEFORE i bolted it all up and made it more difficult to do.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> BUT first try and it started right up :)
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jake
>>
>> 1984 Vanagon GL
>> 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
>>
>> Crescent Beach, BC
>>
>> www.thebassspa.com
>> www.crescentbeachguitar.com
>> http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27
>>
>>
>
--
Jake
1984 Vanagon GL
1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
Crescent Beach, BC
www.thebassspa.com
www.crescentbeachguitar.com
http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27
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