Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:25:12 -0500
Reply-To: Ry <rylincoln@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Ry <rylincoln@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: first try = first run = no running anymore
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Hey, definitely not taking it the wrong way! :) I appreciate any and all
input, I mean you take time out of your life to answer my email... I'm going
to appreciate that. Unfortunately, yes, without a doubt, I have them going
to the right cylinders.
-Ry
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Jake de Villiers <
crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com> wrote:
> Don't take this the wrong way but you have the wires going to the right
> cylinders, right?
>
> http://z.about.com/w/experts/Volkswagen-801/2009/01/VW-Firing-Order.png
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Ry <rylincoln@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Gave Jake's suggestion a try. Same result, It sounds like maybe only one
>> cylinder fires. I was home on lunch break so that's all I did. I have a
>> friend coming over at 4pm so that he can crank and I can check for spark at
>> each plug.
>>
>> I think unknowingly I damaged the hall sensor. I think this because when I
>> removed the distributor to inspect it last night I couldn't easily turn the
>> center shaft until i tweaked the metal cup with the cutouts a bit. Maybe It
>> got banged while I had it stored in a box waiting for the new engine.
>>
>> :-|
>>
>> -Ry
>> http://www.google.com/profiles/rylincoln
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Jake de Villiers <
>> crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sounds like the timing's maybe a little advanced - retard it 3/8" of an
>>> inch and see what happens.
>>>
>>> Clockwise would be retard.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Ry <rylincoln@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for the help folks. I'm still troubleshooting it. Mark, I DO
>>>> have my
>>>> transmission filled with oil, I promise, rigged up a nice long hose and
>>>> big
>>>> funnel hanging from rear a/c grating worked great for filling it up.
>>>> Miguel, I removed the plugs and #2 and #4 were carbon coated more than
>>>> the
>>>> rest, I cleaned them all. Scott thanks for the advice on raising the
>>>> rearend and letting the wheels spin a bit to get the oil all up in brand
>>>> new
>>>> transmission, I'll be doing that once I get the engine started again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here's a photo of my distributor and TDC settings.
>>>> http://is.gd/aM4Dz
>>>>
>>>> And some audio of me cranking the engine with timing set by eye as best
>>>> I
>>>> know how. It fires just a little bit.
>>>> http://is.gd/aM4Cs
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again to all.
>>>>
>>>> -Ry
>>>> http://www.google.com/profiles/rylincoln
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Benny boy <huotb@videotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > When something work and you move/touch something and it's stop
>>>> working, go
>>>> > back in time and put it the way it was before. Double check what you
>>>> did
>>>> > that could have created the problem.
>>>> >
>>>> > Timing may be way off and it was somewhat ok with the plug wire not at
>>>> the
>>>> > right position. Now you need to make sure TDC is right and concord
>>>> with the
>>>> > rotor/distributor cap.
>>>> >
>>>> > What is wrong now is timing. Maybe the distributor gear is not align?
>>>> >
>>>> > The basic of TDC
>>>> > http://www.benplace.com/tdc.htm
>>>> >
>>>> > Ben
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:31:47 -0500, Ry <rylincoln@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > >ok so I made a mistake. i had the spark plugs hooked up on the
>>>> > distributor
>>>> > >cap so that it was firing 1-2-3-4 instead of 1-4-3-2 even though I
>>>> KNEW
>>>> > >what it was supposed to be, just a late evening working all day
>>>> shoulda
>>>> > >taken a break mistake.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >Thing is it started right up that way though was rough and a bit
>>>> loud(now
>>>> > i
>>>> > >know why!).
>>>> > >Now that I got it all hooked up proper like, it doesn't want to
>>>> start, it
>>>> > >has sputtered a few times. :( did i do something awful?
>>>> > >
>>>> > >I'm letting it rest right now and charging the batter(i didn't try so
>>>> long
>>>> > >that i let the battery go dead, just knew it hadn't been charged in
>>>> more
>>>> > >than a month)
>>>> > >
>>>> > >sigh... any hep?
>>>> > >-Ry
>>>> > >http://www.google.com/profiles/rylincoln
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:34 PM, mark drillock <mdrillock@cox.net>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >> I hope you did manage to put oil in the tranny before running the
>>>> engine
>>>> > >> much. You can ruin the dry tranny without driving the van, since
>>>> the
>>>> > engine
>>>> > >> will always turn the tranny mainshaft.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Mark
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Ry wrote:
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>> Update:
>>>> > >>> A few loose bolts on engine tin, timing not dialed in yet, coolant
>>>> > system
>>>> > >>> needs to be bled some more(not that hard imho) and DOH i forgot to
>>>> put
>>>> > >>> trans
>>>> > >>> oil in BEFORE i bolted it all up and made it more difficult to do.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> BUT first try and it started right up :)
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jake
>>>
>>> 1984 Vanagon GL
>>> 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
>>>
>>> Crescent Beach, BC
>>>
>>> www.thebassspa.com
>>> www.crescentbeachguitar.com
>>> http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Jake
>
> 1984 Vanagon GL
> 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
>
> Crescent Beach, BC
>
> www.thebassspa.com
> www.crescentbeachguitar.com
> http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27
>
>
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