Date:         Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:36:10 -0500
Reply-To:     Marc Perdue <mcperdue@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Marc Perdue <mcperdue@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dynamat...
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What are you afraid of losing?  You take a flat blade screwdriver and
pry the panel off.  You'll notice that there are places where it's
easy to get the screwdriver behind the panel.  You want to look for
the places where the panel is held pretty tightly to the metal.  This
is where the fasteners are.  There are a number of connectors in the
panel that will stay in the panel and don't seem too likely to break.
If you're real concerned about it, you can buy a tool special made for
this purpose, that looks kind of like a two-tined fork.  The
screwdriver works just as well, in my experience.

The problem you will likely have is that there is a moisture barrier
behind the panels that needs to be carefully removed so you can get to
the metal of the door.  This material may tear as you are removing it.
 At the very least, it's kind of hard to put back on very well.  I
don't know if this is available from our vendors or not.  Some good
two-sided tape may be in order.

Once you get to the metal, you'll want to clean it well.  There's some
kind of funky material, I don't know what, that's usually on the
metal.  I cleaned this all off before putting the Dynamat on.  I don't
remember what I used to clean it.  It could have been gasoline or some
other such solvent.  It's good to do this on a warm day as the Dynamat
is more pliable.  You'll wind up cutting all kinds of weird shapes
trying to piece it together to get good coverage.  You'll also wind up
putting your arm way up into the door where you can't see very well.
It's not a trivial process, but for me it made a big difference in my
ability to hear my tunes.  And I'm a musician.  I like my music.

Good luck!
Marc

On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Michael Sullivan
<sandwichhead@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would like to do this but afraid to pull the panels and ruin/lose sumpin.
> Any tips on how to do this without causing any damage? Feel free to pmail
> me. Thanks.
> Michael in San Antonio
> 91GL AT 'Gringo'
> 73 Beetle
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Jeff Lincoln <magikvw@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I used Peel N' Seal on my '90 Carat as well. Seemd to work great and at a
>> fraction of the cost.
>>
>> I know people are concerned with smell and off gassing but i have to say I
>> noticed no ill effects. I got the tip from a shop that does restorations.
>>
>> I'm not saying this is the right thing - only that I did it and saw no ill
>> effect - YMMV
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jeff
>> '85 GL (Gertie)
>> '90 Carat (Grover - the noble parts donor)
>> '86 (We call this one Scrap)
>> '78 Bus (Melissa) Patty's Bus
>>
>