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Date:         Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:30:41 -0400
Reply-To:     Mike <mbucchino@CHARTER.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Mike <mbucchino@CHARTER.NET>
Subject:      Re: .................... and vanagons (friday post with little
              Vanagon)
Comments: To: Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
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You appear to be passionately against personally owning or driving an automatic trans Vanagon, while admitting little or no personal experience driving one yourself. Did I mention that I've owned a couple of each type? (I try my best not to pre-judge anything or anyone......) I love my '87auto Westy! Excellent vehicle overall (warts and all!). Mike B. I can't recall ever owning an automatic vehicle. I do not care for them. I hate the way they are in snow...They suck in soft sand and having some engineer pre-determine when the vehicle will shift under +his+ conditions, the one's they simulated on the computer in China, Japan, Germany or where ever, that is often awkward. It can be fatal, if you're in an emergency situation right at the limits of traction, and your silly automatic tranny decides it must shift... You can't really tow them, you can't push start them and you can't usually "baby" a faulty one back home in whatever gear remains. They seem to be more expensive to have repaired and most of them are less effective for fuel economy..maybe brand new ones can match a manual trans for MPG..but I doubt I will every buy one until they get really good or there are no manual tranny vehicles allowed on the highway..

I really can't picture myself driving an automatic Vanagon..Mine, I drive it like a small truck..It's pretty heavy and has a similar power to weight ratio to a loaded truck, so I like to control where my RPMs are with an eye on the highway ahead and the traffic I anticipate.. If I'm caught going slow with a long grade ahead I like to have the option to be in any of 3 gears in my 5speed manual..depending on how slow and how steep the road ahead is..Fishing around for a usable gear in a slush box Vanagon just makes me shudder thinking about it. On mountain or winding roads, as I brake and enter a corner I can select the proper gear that I will need to exit the corner effectively and lose no momentum at all nor induce any stress into the drive line with a shift under load, like an auto does.

Only if I lived in a big city would I consider an auto-shift...and I will never willingly live in a big city again. Don Hanson


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