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Date:         Mon, 5 Apr 2010 08:29:30 -0700
Reply-To:     Anthony Egeln <regnsuzanne@YAHOO.COM>
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From:         Anthony Egeln <regnsuzanne@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Archive not. Re: Radiator flush
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Lessons on copper: Every house on my street has been re-piped because of slab leaks.  Here in northeast Florida homes are built on a concrete slab, not a masonry foundation.  And much of the plumbing, specifically copper piping, was imbedded in the slab.  Over time, because of the very hard water here, the copper pipes sprang pin-hole leaks, causing water to leak through the slab into the home.  This all has occurred over the course of a number of years, many after just a few years, and others much later.  Mine was 18 years old when I bought it, and we went proactive and re-piped ahead of the leaks. I suppose the lesson is:  if you have a copper radiator, make sure you only use distilled water.  If you can't be sure of that, then buy an aluminum radiator. Anthony'89 Syncro GL (Hidalgo)

--- On Mon, 4/5/10, Janne Ruohomäki <janne.ruohomaki@GMAIL.COM> wrote:

From: Janne Ruohomäki <janne.ruohomaki@GMAIL.COM> Subject: Re: Archive not. Re: Radiator flush To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 8:56 AM

On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Mike <mbucchino@charter.net> wrote: > I don't see why you don't just take it out and send it to a radiator shop. > That's what they do. It's not expensive, and they'll repair any holes that > this process can uncover,  and then pressure test for leaks. > Some things are best left to the professionals, and this is one of them.

I would think twice before sending very old aluminum radiator to radiator shop. I have no idea what do they charge but new aluminum radiators are not that expensive. Copper radiator, maybe. My previous cars have had copper ones. My van has aluminum. I dont know if mine is original or not. Van is ~20 years old, but the radiator is in amazingly good shape. PO said that there has never been any leaks anywhere and actually generally forgot to check for water levels because it did not change.

Copper is more prone to pinhole leaks than aluminum. Aluminum tends to weaken from bigger areas. So after repairing, copper radiator would probably have longer life expectancy than  aluminum one. This is not to say aluminum radiator cannot have just small pinhole leak being thick from elsewhere.

A lot probably depends on the general condition of the radiator. Maybe get a new one and fix the old one for spare part, presuming You really are going to keep Your van for a long time. (Dont we all ?)


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