Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 10:59:12 -0700
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: New fuel pump and filter - still noisy!
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LOL,
Hi Bryan ...
taking the Eurovan - oh no !!
I hope that van serves you reliably !
yeah, don't you hate it when you work on it and work on it,
and work on it ....and it's STILL not totally smooth, consistent, and 'right
there' where want it ?
I sure do. ( stupid vans ! :-)
gotta keep a sense of humor about it too.
Fuel delivery is not 'too commonly' a problem ...
but I almost wouldn't mind having full redundancy in the fuel delivery
department..
two individual fuel tanks, choice of either or both fuel pumps running,
and maybe a full time fuel pressure gauge .
It's that ole 'blockage or leakage of fluids or electrons' that gets us and
our sweet old vans every now and then.
May the Volkswagen Gods smile also on your EV MV, and have a safe trip !
Scott
www.turbovans.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "B Feddish" <bfeddish@netreach.net>
To: "'Scott Daniel - Turbovans'" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>;
<vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 4:32 PM
Subject: RE: New fuel pump and filter - still noisy!
> You are right. And so is my 6 year old who just said "If browny van has
> problems then it might not get us there, we should take blue van."
>
> The Westy is staying home. I put some Sea Foam in the tank as you
> recommended and I will revisit this next week. If it's still buzzing after
> a
> few days I'll do your gas can test next weekend.
>
> I'm just wiped and not thinking clearly. After poor running following the
> rebuild, entire new brake components all around (that was a week and a
> half
> ago) and now a buzzing pump that started yesterday I'm frazzled.
>
> I'm going to take the EV MV up there this time. I am now frantically
> trying
> to finish that camping cabinet I started awhile back.
>
> Updates to follow.
>
> Thanks again everyone.
>
> Bryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Scott Daniel - Turbovans
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 6:10 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: New fuel pump and filter - still noisy!
>
> Sure seems to me like it would be worth investing 30 minutes to run the
> van
> off a can of gas, so the main fuel tank is not in the picture ...
> as a test to get an idea if that's the case.( restricted fuel pick-up in
> tank causing the noisy fuel pump )
>
> doesn't cost much,, doesn't take long, might reveal very useful
> information.
> Like, what's not to like about that ??!!
>
> supposing it makes no difference..it's still noisy running off a can of
> gas
> ( this is basic what I call 'substitute and bypass' diagnostic strategy -
> you take the main tank out of the picture to see if that eliminates the
> noise ) ...........
>
> supposing it doesn't make any difference - still noisy.
> then at least you can say 'it's probably not the tank, therefore the tank
> is probably not trying to clog at the fuel pick-up , therefore I'm
> probably
> safe to go on my trip, as far as the fuel tank is concerned.'
>
> seems totally logical in my mind !
> I recommend a ratio of time/energy invested in diagnosis versus energy
> invested in pursing 'a part' of about 90/10.
> Maybe 80/20 ....but quite often it's not 'a part', and it's something
> dirty,
> clogged, corroded , etc. And many of those things respond to cleaning,
> lubing, treating etc.
>
> and may The Vanagon Gods smile on all your vanagons !
>
> Scott
> www.turbovans.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "The Bus Depot" <vanagon@BUSDEPOT.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 2:51 PM
> Subject: Re: New fuel pump and filter - still noisy!
>
>
>>> OK, after installing a new Bosch fuel pump and filter it's
>>> still buzzing! I want to go camping tomorrow, is this
>>> buzzing the sound of imminent failure?
>>> What is it?
>>
>>
>> Assuming this it is actually the pump that is loud and not just vibration
>> being transferred to the frame (did you replace the rubber mounts?), it
>> indicates some of some sort of blockage - dirt, rust, or a kink
>> somewhere.
>> There is no doubt that this will shorten the lifespan of the pump. The
>> only
>> question is how short. Also, not knowing exactly what is causing the
>> supply
>> problem, it's hard to know if (or how quickly) it could worsen. So
>> unfortunately it's hard to say if you've got two days or two years. If it
>> were me, and it was too late to troubleshoot before leaving for my trip,
>> I'd
>> probably cross my fingers, bring a spare pump and a AAA card, and dig
>> into
>> it when I got back.
>>
>> - Ron Salmon
>> The Bus Depot, Inc.
>> www.busdepot.com
>> (215) 234-VWVW
>>
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