Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 15:50:27 -0700
Reply-To: Rob <becida@COMCAST.NET>
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From: Rob <becida@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: Auto tranny advice and more
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I am going to put the subie in it.
For the cooling all I need to do is put pipes in it and a radiator.
Have to drop the fuel tank but I was going to do that anyway, the
space for the radiator is already there... going to have to put an up
dated heater into the space for that too.
I guess I'll know more when I call the tranny places tomorrow.
Thanks.
Rob
At 4/18/2010 03:27 PM,Robert Fisher wrote:
>First off, putting the cooling system in there is going to make anything to
>do with the tranny look like child's play. I think Neil did that to his
>Westy (air cooled to water cooled, plus an engine conversion to boot), you
>might want to pick his brain before you move on with that. Your trannyi
>didn't come with an oil cooler because there's no water system.
>
>VW and Audi used this transmission or some version of it in several
>vehicles. I mentioned the Audi 5000 Turbo auto tranny in an earlier post
>(I'm pretty sure that's the one). I was thinking if I went to a Subie 2.5 I
>might find one (I understand they're rare these days) and rebuild it for
>that. As I understand it, it has another (fourth) gear and at least one more
>plate, and is considered to be 'stronger', but it's not fitted for an
>external cooler, so you either get that case modified or you use the native
>case. I believe it might require, or at least could use, some modification
>to the governor so that the shift points work better for the Subie.
>BTW if something about that is incorrect or incomplete, somebody please
>chime in; I'm trying to make sure I have the right info.
>
>Getting back to your Westy, I think you're still where you were yesterday:
>You need a rebuild; your direct/reverse clutch is likely shot (meaning the
>friction linings have worn off of the plates). If this is a project and
>nobody's in a hurry, pull it out and tackle it yourself. It'll get that van
>going, anyway.
>
>Generally when this business of putting a water system in an air-cooled
>comes up you get a lot of people on here suggesting that the person just go
>on and get a water-cooled van.
>
>If you decide to do the water/Subie conversion, you should have the cooler.
>In that case you'll have to find a water-cooled tranny and probably rebuild
>it. You could go ahead and do that instead of rebuilding the one you have,
>you'll just have a cooler with no water going through it hanging there. I
>don't know if that would be an issue or not, maybe somebody else does.
>
>Good luck,
>Robert
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
>Rob
>Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 2:34 PM
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Auto tranny advice and more
>
>I went and picked up the 83 Vanagon (full Westy) with an auto
>transmission my daughter just bought. Turned out it is an 82 (air
>cooled 2L motor) with an auto tranny. The transmission works for 1st
>& 2nd gears but does not go into 3rd or reverse.
>
>Sigh... not what I was expecting but I'll deal with it.
>
>1st thing is the transmission, I am going to put a Subaru 2.2 in it
>and I suspect the transmission will need more than a rebuild for
>that. I just looked at the Bentley and saw the differences in auto
>trannys, it looks like this year transmission did not come with an oil
>cooler.
>
>I plan to call the different auto transmission places recommended
>tomorrow and see what they say or maybe find out what else I need to
>look at. Sometimes learning curves are "interesting".
>
>I could use advice on the transmission issues here.
>Thanks folk.
>
>
>
>Rob
>
>becida@comcast.net
>Western Washington State, USA
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