Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 20:32:14 -0700
Reply-To: "Danny C." <bruiserbabie@YAHOO.COM>
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From: "Danny C." <bruiserbabie@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: It's Phinally Phriedae,
and Drug prohibition created the drug lords. (was (ironically)
Re: HIJACKED - update)
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You will learn who to avoid in time, Infact after a while you will learn whos emails not to open, But yes there are a bunch of people on this list who must be very board and lonely. Its kinda sad, But I will pray for them. They are sick and dont know it.. But don't walk away because there are people on here with great advice.
Danny C.
Portland, Oregon
'84 Westy (Vanny)
--- On Fri, 4/16/10, Jay lefstein <jleftbrane@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
From: Jay lefstein <jleftbrane@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: It's Phinally Phriedae, and Drug prohibition created the drug lords. (was (ironically) Re: HIJACKED - update)
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Date: Friday, April 16, 2010, 6:44 AM
I signed up for this mailing lis last weekend, so far it seems like a
bunch of bored people venting..
this is about vanagons right?
On 15-Apr-10, at 11:49 PM, Mike South wrote:
> The subject says it all. If you (you collectively/rhetorically,
> like "one",
> not singling anyone out) are one of the people that thinks we need
> to do a
> better job of cracking down on drug production and use, you are one
> of the
> people that is creating the problems Mexico is facing now. There's
> just no
> way to avoid responsibility--you _are_ who's doing that to Mexico.
>
> It's not hard to grow marijuana. There's no reason for it to be
> expensive.
> Make it illegal, and, therefore, (artificially) scarce--the price
> goes up,
> and the invisible hand of the market grabs every nearby person of
> questionable ethics that would like to get rich quick and shoves
> them into
> that space.
>
> You think you're doing a good thing by "taking drugs off the
> streets". The
> drugs are still there, and instead of removin drugs, you've added
> thugs. It
> would be some amiable pothead or spaced out Timothy Leary disciple
> selling
> or sharing, and what you have instead is a completely morality-free,
> violent-as-he-needs-to-be person who can make a killing if he can
> get enough
> kids hooked, because you provided him an incentive to do so.
>
> Keeping drugs illegal is not a conservative position, if by
> conservative you
> mean respectful of the Constitution. It is not a compassionate
> position, if
> by compassionate you mean actually helping people. It is a position
> of
> people who either ignorantly or deliberately believe it is ok to
> force their
> will on other people who have done nothing to them.
>
> A plant grows in the ground. You take a gun, put it to another
> man's head,
> and say "smoke that and I'll lock you up". How hard is it to see
> the abject
> immorality of that position? Seriously.
>
> Yours in raving libertarianism,
>
> mike
>
> PS No, I'm not a user, nor do I even use alcohol or tobacco. I
> just know
> where my rights end and yours begin.
>
> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Mexico is full of great people. It's government is one of the most
>> corrupt
>> in the world, so that despite having a plethora of rich natural
>> resources,
>> many people are dirt poor. I've enjoyed all the time I've spent
>> there,
>> including field trips that I took students on deep into the
>> country. Met
>> some of the most generous, most friendly, and most fun loving
>> people I've
>> ever known anywhere. Never ran into the bozo criminals who have
>> become more
>> prevalent in recent years. And why have they become more
>> prevalent? The
>> drug lords control the government, the police, much of the
>> countryside. Why
>> are the drug lords so powerful? U.S. drug money. If we want
>> Mexico to
>> become a functional country again, all we have to do is control
>> drug traffic
>> in this country. No market, no industry. Something for some to
>> think
>> about.
>>
>> DMc
>>
>> ---- pdooley <psdooley@VERIZON.NET> wrote:
>>> Apparently bandits down there also use logs or debris to block the
>>> road.
>>> Basically anything to get you to stop.
>>> The book I'm reading tells a story of a traveling salesman who was
>>> robbed
>> by
>>> a man with an AK-47 riding on a donkey..
>>> Interesting place, that Mexico. I love to read about it but would
>>> never
>> go
>>> there.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
>>> Behalf
>> Of
>>> Scott Daniel - Turbovans
>>> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 5:52 PM
>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> Subject: Re: HIJACKED - update
>>>
>>> I hope at the minimum, people in Mexico will realize now ...
>>> if they see vehicles parked by the side of the road in any kind of
>>> remote
>>> area like this ..
>>> turn around and head back the other way pronto !
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Frank Condelli" <RAlanen@AOL.COM>
>>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 7:06 AM
>>> Subject: HIJACKED - update
>>>
>>>
>>>> Folks, here are links to two articles published in the Canadian
>>>> press
>>>> about the two couples that were hijacked in Mexico.
>>>>
>>>> _http://www.ottawasun.com/news/ottawa/2010/04/11/13548401.html_
>>>> (http://www.ottawasun.com/news/ottawa/2010/04/11/13548401.html)
>>>>
>>>> _http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2010/04/07/pf-13504646.html_
>>>> (http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2010/04/07/pf-13504646.html)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please note that I will be away from my business travelling in
>>>> the USA
>>>> and
>>>> Mexico from November 18, 2009 until April 30, 2010. Parts
>>>> orders will
>> be
>>>> processed although not as quickly as usual. I will always be
>> available
>>>> by
>>>> E-mail. If you phone, your call will be addressed by Greg T. Brown
>> here
>>>> and he will either call you back or advise you to contact me
>>>> directly
>> by
>>>> E-mail. See my _www.frankcondelli.com_ (http://www.frankcondelli.com/
>> )
>>>> website for complete details. Travel Blog at
>> _www.westfaliatravels.com_
>>>> (http://www.westfaliatravels.com/)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Frank Condelli
>>>>
>>>> Almonte, Ontario, Canada
>>>> '87 Westy & Lionel Trains (_Collection for sale_
>>>> (http://frankcondelli.com/trainsal.htm) )
>>>> _Frank Condelli & Associates_ (http://frankcondelli.com/busindex.html
>>>> )
>> -
>>>> Vanagon/Vanagon Westfalia Service in the Ottawa Valley
>>>> _Vanagon Stainless Steel Exhaust Systems_
>>>> (http://frankcondelli.com/exhaust.htm)
>>>> _BusFusion_ (http://www.busfusion.com/) a VW Camper camping
>>>> event,
>>>> Almonte, ON, June 10 ~ 13, 2010
>>
>> --
>> David McNeely
>>
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