Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 14:41:40 -0500
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From: Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET>
Subject: Re: Camper/Multivan Supplement to Volkswagen Owner's Manual
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Is the manual as a source "hearsay"? Seems odd.
---- Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com> wrote:
> I just went out and measured Dixie's mattresses so we could have some real
> knowledge instead of hearsay.
>
> On a 1986 Pop-top Westy Weekender the lower berth is 46" wide and the upper
> is 47 1/2" wide - not a lot wider up top and a solid foot from being queen
> sized! =)
>
> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > ---- Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > The bottom bed has a big bite out of it from the camping stuff. The
> > > top bed has less of a bite out of it because of the inward curvature
> > > of the walls of the van. Conventional widsom is that the top is
> > > "queen" and the bottom is "double." I doubt that's exactly true.
> >
> > Well, my perception was that the top was several inches wider than the
> > bottom. However, the figure given in the book is that it is only 0.8 inch
> > wider. That is quite a lot less than the difference between a "double" and
> > a "queen" mattress. My wife likes to sleep between sheets with blankets
> > when it is not cold enough to require a sleeping bag. She puts "double bed"
> > sheets on the bottom mattress, and they fit pretty well. They probably
> > would work up top, too, though the mattress is really thin. We've never
> > slept up there ourselves.
> >
> > > The problem with your manual no doubt happened at the contractor's
> > > print shop on Monday morning after New Year's. But I've seen it happen
> > > plenty of times. Look at the pages and see if the ones in French are
> > > connected through the binding with another page in French.
> >
> > Yes, but some of those have English on the reverse side, some have French,
> > so the mistake may have been in printing as well as in assembling.
> >
> > I did learn that the manual was available in a French language version and
> > an English language version by looking in the owner's manual for ordering
> > information.
> >
> > >Somebody
> > > just picked up a press sheet , which was probably "ganged" with both
> > > languages, checked it for quality and put it back down the wrong way
> > > around. You may have the only one in existence!
> >
> > I should offer it for sale to collectors, right :-).
> >
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote:
> > > > I've been meaning to try to find an answer to this question. My
> > supplement, referenced in the post subject, has some pages in English, some
> > in French. These pages are not duplicates -- some information is in French
> > only, some in English only. At first I thought this was because some
> > installations are Canadian only, but some of the French pages refer to
> > things that are in my U.S. model, and some English pages describe items that
> > occur only in the Canadian model, such as the smoke detector. Of course, to
> > serve all Canadian owners, the entire manual should be printed in both
> > English and French.
> > > >
> > > > I suppose that my manual is just a bastard, containing a mismatch of
> > English and French language versions. Does anyone know if the manuals were
> > available in Canada in French versions? If so, maybe my manual just got
> > pages mixed at the print shop.
> > > >
> > > > Interestingly, on page 35 of this manual, the ground clearance is
> > listed as "75.0 in. (190 mm)." Wow! Of course, 190 mm is approximately
> > 7.48 inches, so I guess the listing is a typo for 7.50 in.
> > > >
> > > > Apropos a discussion of some time back, this page also lists the bed
> > dimensions, as follows:
> > > >
> > > > "upper 72.8 x 48.0 in (1850 x 1220 mm)
> > > > lower 74.0 x 47.2 in (1880 x 1200 mm)"
> > > >
> > > > So, the upper is very slightly wider, and very slightly shorter,
> > according to VW.
> > > >
> > > > I thought that I remembered a greater difference in width than that;
> > others thought the two were the same width. These data seem to vindicate
> > both opinions, in that the upper is wider, but very little.
> > > >
> > > > David McNeely
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > David McNeely
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Jake
>
> 1984 Vanagon GL 1.9 WBX 'The Grey Van'
> 1986 Westy Weekender/2.5 SOHC Suby 'Dixie'
>
> Crescent Beach, BC
>
> www.thebassspa.com
> www.crescentbeachguitar.com
> http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27
--
David McNeely
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