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Date:         Sun, 18 Apr 2010 15:50:27 -0700
Reply-To:     Rob <becida@COMCAST.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Rob <becida@COMCAST.NET>
Subject:      Re: Auto tranny advice and more
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I am going to put the subie in it. For the cooling all I need to do is put pipes in it and a radiator. Have to drop the fuel tank but I was going to do that anyway, the space for the radiator is already there... going to have to put an up dated heater into the space for that too.

I guess I'll know more when I call the tranny places tomorrow. Thanks.

Rob

At 4/18/2010 03:27 PM,Robert Fisher wrote: >First off, putting the cooling system in there is going to make anything to >do with the tranny look like child's play. I think Neil did that to his >Westy (air cooled to water cooled, plus an engine conversion to boot), you >might want to pick his brain before you move on with that. Your trannyi >didn't come with an oil cooler because there's no water system. > >VW and Audi used this transmission or some version of it in several >vehicles. I mentioned the Audi 5000 Turbo auto tranny in an earlier post >(I'm pretty sure that's the one). I was thinking if I went to a Subie 2.5 I >might find one (I understand they're rare these days) and rebuild it for >that. As I understand it, it has another (fourth) gear and at least one more >plate, and is considered to be 'stronger', but it's not fitted for an >external cooler, so you either get that case modified or you use the native >case. I believe it might require, or at least could use, some modification >to the governor so that the shift points work better for the Subie. >BTW if something about that is incorrect or incomplete, somebody please >chime in; I'm trying to make sure I have the right info. > >Getting back to your Westy, I think you're still where you were yesterday: >You need a rebuild; your direct/reverse clutch is likely shot (meaning the >friction linings have worn off of the plates). If this is a project and >nobody's in a hurry, pull it out and tackle it yourself. It'll get that van >going, anyway. > >Generally when this business of putting a water system in an air-cooled >comes up you get a lot of people on here suggesting that the person just go >on and get a water-cooled van. > >If you decide to do the water/Subie conversion, you should have the cooler. >In that case you'll have to find a water-cooled tranny and probably rebuild >it. You could go ahead and do that instead of rebuilding the one you have, >you'll just have a cooler with no water going through it hanging there. I >don't know if that would be an issue or not, maybe somebody else does. > >Good luck, >Robert > >-----Original Message----- >From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of >Rob >Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 2:34 PM >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >Subject: Auto tranny advice and more > >I went and picked up the 83 Vanagon (full Westy) with an auto >transmission my daughter just bought. Turned out it is an 82 (air >cooled 2L motor) with an auto tranny. The transmission works for 1st >& 2nd gears but does not go into 3rd or reverse. > >Sigh... not what I was expecting but I'll deal with it. > >1st thing is the transmission, I am going to put a Subaru 2.2 in it >and I suspect the transmission will need more than a rebuild for >that. I just looked at the Bentley and saw the differences in auto >trannys, it looks like this year transmission did not come with an oil >cooler. > >I plan to call the different auto transmission places recommended >tomorrow and see what they say or maybe find out what else I need to >look at. Sometimes learning curves are "interesting". > >I could use advice on the transmission issues here. >Thanks folk. > > > >Rob > >becida@comcast.net >Western Washington State, USA


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