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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 2010 10:06:51 -0700
Reply-To:     Old Volks Home <oldvolkshome@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Old Volks Home <oldvolkshome@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: New distributor missing hall sender?
Comments: To: Todd <dermultivan@hotmail.com>
Comments: cc: Ken Wilford <kenwilfy@comcast.net>
In-Reply-To:  <SNT116-DS48117FB9B0B70E7DC2EDFAC080@phx.gbl>
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I'd love to see what this "simplified" hall unit/sender looks like and what the manufacturer's number is (Bosch or whoever). I have no references in my current Bosch stuff pointing to this kind of hall unit for the Vanagon 2.1 distributor. VW & Bosch continues to list the 1237 010 039 (VW 052-998-065) as the current replacement for all 2.1 dizzys.

Don't pull yours apart to photo - you've had enough aggravation ;)

What & where is this brand/outfit that provides these rebuilt units?

Good thing this issue was solved and yer back runnin' -- Jim Thompson 84 GL 1.9 "Gloria" 84 Westfalia 2.1 "Ole Putt" 72 411 Station Wagon "Pug" 75 914 1.8 (No Name Yet) Full Timing Since March 1999 oldvolkshome@gmail.com http://www.oldvolkshome.com *********************************** On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Todd <dermultivan@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Apparently, 'new' rebuilt distributors for the 2.1L have the > simplified hall sender, only having hardware on the plug side. The vendor > double-checked their stock of distributors and all have this new style. > > My non-starting problem after installing the new distributor was that I > hadn't set cylinder one to TDC and adjusted the position of the distributor > to match so it would fire on that cylinder. Did this per vendor's > instructions and she fired right up! > > ...wonder if stumbling issue will be gone now, heh... > > Thanks for all the help! > > > *From:* Old Volks Home <oldvolkshome@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 20, 2010 8:13 AM > *To:* Todd <dermultivan@hotmail.com> > *Cc:* vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com ; Ken Wilford <kenwilfy@comcast.net> > *Subject:* Re: New distributor missing hall sender? > > Hi Todd - > > Looked at the 1237 010 039 this morning and it looks exactly like the 1237 > 010 027 that would have been originally equipped, so I have to agree with > Ken that the wrong Hall Unit may have been installed by the so-called > rebuilder. Download and print the photo from the Airhead link I gave you > last night, take that and the distributor back to the supply and show them > the problem. > -- > Jim Thompson > 84 GL 1.9 "Gloria" > 84 Westfalia 2.1 "Ole Putt" > 72 411 Station Wagon "Pug" > 75 914 1.8 (No Name Yet) > Full Timing Since March 1999 > oldvolkshome@gmail.com > http://www.oldvolkshome.com > *********************************** > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Todd <dermultivan@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Exactly - that is what I was expecting to see under the rotating piece! >> Much appreciated. >> >> >> *From:* Old Volks Home <oldvolkshome@gmail.com> >> *Sent:* Monday, April 19, 2010 8:37 PM >> *To:* Todd <dermultivan@hotmail.com> >> *Cc:* vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com ; Jim At KGPR <jim@karmannghia.com> >> *Subject:* Re: New distributor missing hall sender? >> >> Todd - >> >> That's very possible. As noted in my previous post, Bosch superseded the >> hall unit last year and *may not* require/have that extra piece I see in the >> photo provided. >> >> Look at the photo at this link: >> >> http://www.airheadparts.com/viewDetail.asp?strMasterCat=&idproduct=6777 >> >> That is the original style 1237 010 027 hall unit. Personally I have not >> seen the superseded unit (1237 010 039), but I'll make a note to do so >> tomorrow morning (note the additional CC to remind me when I go in tomorrow >> morning). >> >> Thanx for the additional photo. >> -- >> Jim Thompson >> 84 GL 1.9 "Gloria" >> 84 Westfalia 2.1 "Ole Putt" >> 72 411 Station Wagon "Pug" >> 75 914 1.8 (No Name Yet) >> Full Timing Since March 1999 >> oldvolkshome@gmail.com >> http://www.oldvolkshome.com >> *********************************** >> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Todd <dermultivan@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Jim. Hmmm, maybe the hall sender is just a different form >>> factor than the one I removed? The former was using all the screw holes >>> under the rotating stator piece and there is a lot more 'hardware' under >>> there. Pics of that one (before removal) here: >>> >>> http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/1u85hy5mHGKX_61okvpmUoPPzRFRdLRTF6I6HHY68qY?feat=directlink >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Old Volks Home <oldvolkshome@gmail.com> >>> *Sent:* Monday, April 19, 2010 8:21 PM >>> *To:* Todd <dermultivan@hotmail.com> >>> *Cc:* vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com >>> *Subject:* Re: New distributor missing hall sender? >>> >>> The rest of the hall unit is under the rotating stator piece. remove the >>> retaining circlip, then the stator (mark its position first) and it should >>> be there. The black connecting piece on the side of the distributor is the >>> exposed half of the hall unit (or should be). Bosch 1237 010 039 (formerly >>> 1237 010 027). >>> -- >>> Jim Thompson >>> 84 GL 1.9 "Gloria" >>> 84 Westfalia 2.1 "Ole Putt" >>> 72 411 Station Wagon "Pug" >>> 75 914 1.8 (No Name Yet) >>> Full Timing Since March 1999 >>> oldvolkshome@gmail.com >>> http://www.oldvolkshome.com >>> *********************************** >>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Todd <dermultivan@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Just received/installed a 'new' distributor from one of our vendors and >>>> the van just won't turn over. Popped the cap, rotor, dust cap off and...am >>>> I wrong...is the hall sender missing??! I assume a 'new' rebuilt >>>> distributor would come complete with everything. Have a look, and thanks! >>>> >>>> http://picasaweb.google.com/dermultivan/NewDistributor?feat=directlink >>>> >>>> Todd >>>> 91 Weekender >>>> >>>


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