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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 2010 12:11:32 -0700
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: OK, Swepco gear oil..
Comments: To: Marc Sayer <marcsayer@HUGHES.NET>
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well now who knows what to think re the samba thread .. one guy writes - " Avoid using Swepco 201 with a VW factory transmission. Swepco makes great products but their oil isn't compatible with the VW 002 and 091 transmissions in my personal experience: it has the wrong coefficient of friction for the synchronizers the shifting is too stiff it costs $40/gallon Think about the wear that will occur when using that gear oil especially during warmup and compare it to the cost of a transmission rebuild. "

I've always heard that Swepco was really, really good stuff. When I have used it .. no problems ever, excpet maybe a stiffer syncro action when cold.

I suspect Swepco is pretty good at protecting gears, like the ring and pinion. I think I'll try some if I get the change.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc Sayer" <marcsayer@HUGHES.NET> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:25 AM Subject: Re: OK, Swepco gear oil..

> MTL and MT-90 are not for use in transaxles or differentials with hypoid > gears, which means not for use in VW transaxles. Redline says, not for > use with hypoid gears, right on their website. I love these products and > all the Brit and Jap cars I built got them, but I wouldn't use them in a > VW transaxle. In addition, the MTL is way too light for a transaxle even > if it were suitable for use with a hypoid gear. To get the same friction > modifiers in a Redline product, I'd go with Lightweight Shockproof - > Film thickness greater than an SAE 75W140, yet low fluid friction like > 80W gear oil. And it has the right mix of friction modifiers for a > manual transmission in most cases. If this doesn't work for a specific > application, I'd go with the 75W90NS. Shockproof is amazing stuff and > offers a very high level of protection without the drag of a thick oil. > > Here's an interesting thread on transaxle lubricants. > http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/archive/index.php/o-t--t-366486--.html >> MT-90 is a 75W90 gear oil (viscosity about the same as a 15W40 motor >> oil). Redline MTL is thinner, a 75W80W. Are you sure you weren't using >> the MTL? >> >> You don't say which Swepco product you used. I think the Porsche folks >> mostly use their 201, which is available in multiple grades, up to a >> 250! Their 210 is an 80W-140, which sounds closer to what you describe. >> > > -- > > Marc Sayer > Journalist, Photographer, Dog Trainer (APDT member #062956) > Board member - Western States Great Dane Rescue Association > Director of Operations& Training - Deaf Dane Rescue Inc. > Oakridge, OR USA > > My Homepage -http://gracieland.org > Deaf Dane Rescue -http://deafdane.org > Western States Great Dane Rescue Association -http://wsgdra.org > RescueWatchdogs -http://rescuewatchdogs.org > Association of Pet Dog Trainers -http://APDT.com


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