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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 2010 16:36:30 -0700
Reply-To:     "Danny C." <bruiserbabie@YAHOO.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         "Danny C." <bruiserbabie@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Starter SR0408X ge-futzd
Comments: To: Andrew Martin <ramblinvan@GMAIL.COM>
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Yes my van runs on lots and lots of MONEY!!!!!

Danny C. Portland, Oregon '84 Westy (Vanny)    

--- On Fri, 4/30/10, Andrew Martin <ramblinvan@GMAIL.COM> wrote:

From: Andrew Martin <ramblinvan@GMAIL.COM> Subject: Re: Starter SR0408X ge-futzd To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Date: Friday, April 30, 2010, 3:09 PM

I blame the new guy... Chris in St Louie.  Yeah, that's it...he did it.

(Come on volks...it's phreakin' Phryday!)

Seriously though...  many rebuilt electrical items seem to be "luck of the draw" these days.   I'd like to think that a Bosch rebuild is better than the average spray paint rebuild but...  Perhaps some of those 20+ year old cores are getting a bit tired?

If you know your battery and wiring are tip top I vote that you try a two pronged approach (NO, not the goat); some cursing and another Gennie Bosch rebuild and hope for at least another 24 months/6000K.

Just keep adding $$$. It's the Way of the Vanagon.

Andrew

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Al Knoll Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 3:38 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Starter SR0408X ge-futzd

So one day you try to light the fire using the good ol' ignition key and the starter makes strange cranking sounds...  Very strange, so you turn off the key and the starter, formerly engaged to the ring gear and making strange cranking sounds, stops the crankiness but continues to run...spinning merrily away on it's own.  Hmmm, so while its' whirring away you disconnect the battery negative and of course it stops whirring and whining.  Great, wonder what gremlin that was?  Put negative back to the battery post and yep, whirring and whining.

This translates into no start for those who may have missed the previews.

Starters have a magnetic switch often called a solenoid but really just a big relay with an iron core activator that works like a mechanical solenoid to make the contact between the megajoule hugemongous starter cable and the starter motor itself.  So if one disconnects the activating current that makes the solenoid move to engage the relay contacts then all will be well and the starter will give up on the incessant whining and whirring and just sit there pouting, right?  Not this puppy, with the "solenoid" activating signal, the one from the ignition key removed and waving in the air, the critter continues along the whining and whirring path.

Might be that the starter (Genuwhine Bosch SR0408X gear reduction TDI 1999-2003) has gone nips up and jammed the solenoid lever (the part that moves the shaft into contact with the ring gear via the 'bendix' one way drive) , might be a haint.

6000 miles and 24 months on this "bosch reman" doorstop.

What to do, what to do?  Order another SR0408x?  Incantations, Chanting, feathers, bones, goat guts on the barbie, pay big bux for an exorcistst, blame the sunspots?

Pensionerd.  ,


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