Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 2010 17:42:11 -0600
Reply-To:     Tom Buese <tombuese@COMCAST.NET>
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From:         Tom Buese <tombuese@COMCAST.NET>
Subject:      Re: Starter SR0408X ge-futzd
Comments: To: "Danny C." <bruiserbabie@YAHOO.COM>
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I got 6 years & 60k out of my last Bosch rebuilt.

YMMV,

Mr. BZ-wife refused to push anymore

On Apr 30, 2010, at 5:36 PM, Danny C. wrote:

> Yes my van runs on lots and lots of MONEY!!!!!
>
>
> Danny C.
> Portland, Oregon
> '84 Westy (Vanny)
>
>
>
> --- On Fri, 4/30/10, Andrew Martin <ramblinvan@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
>
> From: Andrew Martin <ramblinvan@GMAIL.COM>
> Subject: Re: Starter SR0408X ge-futzd
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Date: Friday, April 30, 2010, 3:09 PM
>
>
> I blame the new guy... Chris in St Louie.  Yeah, that's it...he did
> it.
>
> (Come on volks...it's phreakin' Phryday!)
>
> Seriously though...  many rebuilt electrical items seem to be "luck
> of the
> draw" these days.   I'd like to think that a Bosch rebuild is better
> than
> the average spray paint rebuild but...  Perhaps some of those 20+
> year old
> cores are getting a bit tired?
>
> If you know your battery and wiring are tip top I vote that you try
> a two
> pronged approach (NO, not the goat); some cursing and another Gennie
> Bosch
> rebuild and hope for at least another 24 months/6000K.
>
> Just keep adding $$$. It's the Way of the Vanagon.
>
> Andrew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> Behalf Of
> Al Knoll
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 3:38 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Starter SR0408X ge-futzd
>
> So one day you try to light the fire using the good ol' ignition key
> and the starter makes strange cranking sounds...  Very strange, so you
> turn off the key and the starter, formerly engaged to the ring gear
> and making strange cranking sounds, stops the crankiness but continues
> to run...spinning merrily away on it's own.  Hmmm, so while its'
> whirring away you disconnect the battery negative and of course it
> stops whirring and whining.  Great, wonder what gremlin that was?  Put
> negative back to the battery post and yep, whirring and whining.
>
> This translates into no start for those who may have missed the
> previews.
>
> Starters have a magnetic switch often called a solenoid but really
> just a big relay with an iron core activator that works like a
> mechanical solenoid to make the contact between the megajoule
> hugemongous starter cable and the starter motor itself.  So if one
> disconnects the activating current that makes the solenoid move to
> engage the relay contacts then all will be well and the starter will
> give up on the incessant whining and whirring and just sit there
> pouting, right?  Not this puppy, with the "solenoid" activating
> signal, the one from the ignition key removed and waving in the air,
> the critter continues along the whining and whirring path.
>
> Might be that the starter (Genuwhine Bosch SR0408X gear reduction TDI
> 1999-2003) has gone nips up and jammed the solenoid lever (the part
> that moves the shaft into contact with the ring gear via the 'bendix'
> one way drive) , might be a haint.
>
> 6000 miles and 24 months on this "bosch reman" doorstop.
>
> What to do, what to do?  Order another SR0408x?  Incantations,
> Chanting, feathers, bones, goat guts on the barbie, pay big bux for an
> exorcistst, blame the sunspots?
>
> Pensionerd.  ,
>
>
>
>