Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 23:59:46 -0400
Reply-To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: stainless steel coolant pipes
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Peak markets a number of different antifreezes. All of it actually made by Old World Industries, http://www.oldworldind.com/.
If you really want to get confused go into the world of Diesel antifreeze choices. The solution of choice for most is either the "Fleet Charge" or lately "Final Charge" products. The Final Charge is a great product eliminating the need for the "Supplemental" coolant additives. The only problem with these products is the superior wetting, (low surface tension) make leakage more of a problem. This feature is just like using "Water Wetter". This does them superior cooling products for wet sleeve engines (most real diesels) like the Vanagon.
Basically, for the Vanagon cooling system changes are now eliminated. Water pump and other pat replacements will more than cause enough coolant replacement.
Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Dave Mcneely
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 7:30 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: stainless steel coolant pipes
---- Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> my 'normal' Good Stuff is Prestone Extended Life anti-frz.
>
> A parts store counterman once told me a-frz is really only made by a few
> compannies in the US ..and even when you get a slightly off-brand, you are
> getting basically good stuff.
Prestone Extended Life antifreeze is labeled to be phosphate free. Peak antifreeze is not so labeled, nor is Prestone "regular."
May be that only a handful of companies make antifreeze. If so, they are putting out a bunch of different labels with different colors of dye, like blue, red, yellow, green ............... . Purple and orange for all I know. A few years back, antifreeze was green, period. Then car companies started with their own labels and colors, and admonitions to use only "approved" coolant, which they helpfully (for themselves) chose not to define. Now ?????????? Most antifreeze, as has been stated on the list repeatedly, states on the label that it is compatible with all other brands and colors, and is suitable for all engines. But, that's from the maker/seller. How are we to know? But if the label specifies "phosphate free," I'll accept that. For now, because when I was getting cooling system work done I couldn't find any labeled as phosphate free, my waterboxer has VW brand blue stuff. Next time, I'll get Zerex or Prestone long life stuff that is labeled as phosphate free.
I've mostly lived in places that had very hard water, except for a stint in Kentucky. At least with hard water, the lead in the copper-line solder in the house pipes stays put, rather than mobilizing.
David McNeely
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