Date:         Mon, 3 May 2010 21:06:01 -0700
Reply-To:     Roland <syncronicity1@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Roland <syncronicity1@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Found a timesert in the spark plug hole
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Hey gents,

Tom, I am absolutely sure you are correct.  I read the time-sert web site,
and it describes the special threads inside the item, with causes the
time-sert to lock in place when used with the special installation tool.
Both the one that came out of the hole and the one I bought do not have this
special thread.  The one I bought simply said to screw it on the spark plug,
and then put the combination into the hole and torque to manuf. specs (with
the thread lock goo of course).

And I got it in tonight, all went smooth, it screwed right in, obviously the
threads in the head were in good shape, torqued it a little higher than the
spec (around 30 lbs instead of the Bentley's 22 bls).  Got the other plugs
in also.  Will let it sit overnight, and try it tomorrow night.  It felt
correct, like the crush washer was fully "crushed".  All signs are good.

Roland


On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Tom Hargrave <thargrav@hiwaay.net> wrote:

> The fact that you found a time-sert in your engine tells me you have a
> problem & it's not the time-sert because time-serts are designed to lock in
> place once installed. I would be willing to bet that a fair percentage of
> list members have one or more time-serts or heli-coils in their engines. I
> know I've installed enough heli-coils over the years.
>
> BTW, a lot of people will accuse the mechanic who installs a time-sert or
> heli-coil of damaging their engines when more often than not, it's the
> previous mechanic who over torqued the spark plug or fastener. The one who
> has to do the thread repair is usually suffering the consequences when he
> drags the damaged threads out with the fastener.
>
> Tom
> www.stir-plate.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf Of
> Mark Dearing
> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 4:24 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Found a timesert in the spark plug hole
>
> In a message dated 5/3/2010 5:20:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> syncronicity1@GMAIL.COM writes:
>
> Only  other alternative I thought of is to use one of the old spark plugs
> and torque it to a higher value to maybe get a better seat on the  insert.
>
>
> hello Chances aRE THE OLD INSERT WILL STILL COME BACK OUT WITH THE PLUG NO
> MATTER WHAT YOU DO,  i WOULD USE THE NEW INSERT AND NEW PLUG AND HOPE FOR
> THE BEST  LATER  MARK D
>