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Date:         Tue, 4 May 2010 23:30:27 -0400
Reply-To:     David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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From:         David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Fwd: Gas tank and gas cap
Comments: To: mcneely4@COX.NET
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At 09:47 PM 5/4/2010, Dave Mcneely wrote: >Looks like the receiver is pretty mucked up. Gasket appears >stretched and maybe broken, and there appears to be rust or some >other dirty looking material on the receiver. Maybe cleaning it >would make a cap fit better, but perhaps it needs replaced.

Dear Annie,

The 'gasket' Dave is talking about is really the metal mounting flange that the three mounting screws pull up against the inside of the bodywork -- the sealing gasket is on the cap itself. The rust on the sealing edge around nine to two o'clock may be a sealing issue but not a cap-retention one. The visible tang inside the fitting at about eight o'clock definitely appears bent as others have said. The bright line extending upward from there is the edge of a pipe-end reflecting. It's hard to tell from the photo angle -- I think it's probably fine but might be worth checking to make sure it's actually attached all around as it should be. Again, a pressure-integrity issue.

I'd suggest to clean up the rust at the rim, and otherwise if your cap stays on and holds pressure (your next inspection may tell you that) to not worry further about it.

Do check the +10v at the back of the fuel and/or temp gauges -- if it's low both gauges will read low. If it's a little low your temp light will also be blinking, but I don't know what happens there if it's low enough to do as you describe. It's difficult to get to the fuel gauge sender (although small hands and "eyes at the tip of your fingers" help), but I can tell you at least how to test the gauge calibration -- if a PO adjusted the gauge without knowing that the test values in Bentley are not in ohms, the gauge could be way off. You might want to pmail me to talk in a bit more detail about gauge behavior.

And I have a heretical opinion about running the fuel out to check capacity -- the book says don't run the pump dry, and indeed you shouldn't as it's lubricated by the fuel passing through it. But it's my belief, borne out empirically in several vehicles including the Vanagon, that running it dry deliberately, expecting it and being ready to shut down the engine at the first sign of stumble, will have no ill effects if not done regularly, and I routinely do it with every new vehicle because I want to know what the gauge *actually* says when it means empty. That's easy to do so long as you stay within fill-up range of whatever amount of spare fuel you're carrying for test purposes. Carrying spare fuel is of course a hazard in a collision and can have very severe consequences, but I personally deem it an acceptable risk (to me) for the purpose. Ask me again after I've been burnt to a crisp. Knowing the empty point and how much fuel went in after you ran out, you may find a gas station with enough leisure to allow you to fill it a gallon at a time with a couple-minute wait between each gallon, and plot the gauge readings for each gallon fill.

This semi-obsession with gauge correction curves etc may be part of my (half) German background. Or engineering inclinations. Or deep-seated mental illness... <g> But I *do* tend to know how much fuel is actually in the tank. Maybe it comes from cruising in sailboats.

Yours, David


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