Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 07:20:38 -0700
Reply-To: Jay lefstein <jleftbrane@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Jay lefstein <jleftbrane@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Tires in Canada
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I would agree we should be carful of what we roll on. that being said
i have put a few of the wrong tire and wheel packages on my vans. with
no failures to mention.
There are probably hundreds of vanagons rolling around right now with
the LTX'S . I have had them and don't love them. I have also had the
"correct tires" they don't feel much better... right now i have 16"
with a heavy car tire and it feels good... I have a westy with a bunch
of extras that add weight and i often travel with 4 or 5 friends ( i
added a jump seat ) surfboards, west suits, BBQ, skateboards etc....
FULLY LOADED... on gnarly mountain roads with steep switch backs,
badass pot holes etc.. agian no problems to mention....
so yes there are "correct tires" available and you should use them.
but there are others you can get away with... i also believe that when
you go with a bigger wider tire like the 225/50/16 that i ride on
there is less force on the sidewall.. shorter sidewall??
but there are also guys who wouldn't think of putting a FORD engine in
a vw.... i have 50,000 kms on one and think its the least expensive
most environmental way to go ;)
J
On 13-May-10, at 5:53 AM, Dave Mcneely wrote:
> 'cordin' to this:
>
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=HydroEdge
>
> to get the load capacity required using the Hydroedge, one would
> need to go to 17" wheels. That does not take into consideration
> that the tire is a passenger car tire, requiring discounting of the
> load rating when used with a van. You need a light truck tire with
> the rated capacity. The Michelin web site tire selector states that
> Michelin does not make a tire that meets the specifications of our
> vans as originally equipped. I'd trust that statement, and get
> tires that do from another maker. If you decide to get new, bigger
> wheels, that is another matter, and there are evidently good reasons
> to do so. But the tires still need to meet the load carrying needs
> of tires for our vans, which means they must be load range C or D.
>
> GoWesty acknowldedges the discrepancy between the load carrying
> capacity specified by VW and that offered by the Hydroedge, but
> rationalizes it by pointing out that the capacity stated by the mfg
> comes very close to the weight of the van. They also state that
> they have never known of an accident due to failure of the
> Hydroedge, and that their families drive vans with Hydroedges.
>
> this has all been hashed out here before. Seems to me that to get a
> tire that does not meet the specification is courting danger.
>
> The wheel size did not increase after '85, btw. All the way through
> '91, the vans still came with 14" wheels as you described.
>
> DMc
>
> ---- Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>> dear tireless
>> a good place to start is
>> http://www.vanagon.com/info/tires/index.htm
>> the internet made a genus outa me ... :)
>> yours
>>
>> On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Jeff Palmer <jpalmer@mts.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Roger it will be 25 here this weekend :) That's in the high
>>> 70s for you
>>> southerners. Let me know when the sun comes out!!
>>>
>>> I mentioned it was an 85 because i thought the wheels got bigger
>>> in 86,
>>> non? I think my stock steel rims are 14x5.5 if memory serves.
>>>
>>> Use these days is a combination of city stuff and the Ituna-Pine
>>> Falls
>>> prairie highway circuit. Don't drive it in winter anymore and off
>>> roading
>>> is a no go as it makes the spice rack jingle. Pretty sure i'll
>>> have to take
>>> what i can get now.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> On 2010-05-12, at 11:51 PM, Roger Whittaker wrote:
>>>
>>> dear tireless in winnipeg ... (brrrr)
>>>
>>> ... that Michelin doesn't make a tire for my 85 anymore
>>> tires are not made for a specific van year ... tires are made for
>>> a load
>>> rating at specific pressure and a drivng envoronment
>>>
>>> i have the wonderful wheel package from gowesty
>>> 15" michelin hydro edge ... these may not work for you cause you
>>> may need
>>> to have a excellent highway tire that is good for cold and dry ...
>>> but for me in the temperate rain forest of bc they are great ...
>>> if i want to go off road i require a different tire cause these
>>> tires
>>> specifically say on the side wall NO ROCKS
>>>
>>> the real question i be askin here is not what sort of tire do you
>>> require
>>> ...
>>> but what sort of driving you do ...
>>> every day 12 months a year 7 days a week ... (brrrr)
>>> are you running stock rims ... or something exotic
>>>
>>> do you mud bog every other minute or do you drive endless hours of
>>> TCH
>>> between ituna and pine falls
>>>
>>>
>>> so as dr phil says to oprah ... vy donchya tell us a little about
>>> the sort
>>> of road yer goin down sos we can tell yer what sorta tires would
>>> best keep
>>> ya centred ...
>>> yours
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Jeff Palmer <jpalmer@mts.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Now that my Michelin LTX's have succumbed to sidewall cracking, I
>>>> find out
>>>> that Michelin doesn't make a tire for my 85 anymore. Where do
>>>> Canadians get
>>>> tires? I've looked at busdepot's list and others and can't find
>>>> any of
>>>> those locally, and shipping from the US is more than the tire
>>>> itself (or
>>>> pretty darn close).
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions for tire vendors in Canada, online or otherwise?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Jeff in Winnipeg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> roger w
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>>> Under three things the earth trembles, under four it cannot bear
>>> up: a
>>> servant who becomes king ...
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>>
>>
>> --
>> roger w
>> From Proverbs:
>> Under three things the earth trembles, under four it cannot bear
>> up: a
>> servant who becomes king ...
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>
> --
> David McNeely
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