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Date:         Wed, 12 May 2010 19:15:42 -0500
Reply-To:     tom ring <taring@TARING.ORG>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         tom ring <taring@TARING.ORG>
Organization: Tippen Ringware
Subject:      Re: Good local mechanic worked on my 85
Comments: To: Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <AANLkTilFc4jtpxjtigf0n-vNx-xgipoiM2u0k1MEA3PW@mail.gmail.com>
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You are correct, sir. Wrong vehicle.

But something does _feel_ like the second butterfly. I'll have to investigate this weekend. The idle speed switch isn't quite right and I'm getting bucking with just a little throttle. It was unsecured a few years ago and I just patched it and don't remember what I did. So I need to get into that area anyway.

tom K0TAR

On 11 May 2010 at 23:07, Jake de Villiers wrote:

> Uh, where is your 'second butterfly' located? On the Vanagon? ;) > > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 5:06 PM, tom ring <taring@taring.org> wrote: > > > It's an 85 1.9 with about 104k on it. > > > > Drove it 30 miles at freeway speeds, 60 to 72, today and it was running > > very > > nice. I could hold about 68 just touching the second butterfly. Trying to > > burn off about 3 gallons of 1 year old fuel mixed with fresh added up to > > whatever the full tank holds. Going to add a can of Sea Foam before a run > > after work tomorrow. > > > > tom > > K0TAR > > > > On 11 May 2010 at 13:07, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote: > > > > > it's not a matter of is proper backpressure needed, > > > but more that exhaust vales will burn after a while with an exhaust leak > > > near that exhaust port, > > > > > > I don't see which engine Tom the question asker has ... > > > but I'll say that I find slightly burnt or rough exhaust valves on > > > waterboxer 2.1's all the time. > > > it's normal even .. > > > I go to do head gaskets, check the valves for leakage, and the exhaust > > ones > > > are usually a little leaky .. > > > like doing 80 % of the sealing they should be doing. > > > > > > so given that, it's not that smart to run with significant exhaust system > > > cracks or leaks. > > > It could even be a fire hazard. > > > in any engine. > > > > > > Scott > > > www.turbovans.com > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "tom ring" <taring@TARING.ORG> > > > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > > > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 8:04 PM > > > Subject: Re: Good local mechanic worked on my 85 > > > > > > > > > > And a question. I have had a very minor to major break in the exhaust > > for > > > > a > > > > few thousand miles. The very minor was a lengthwise split about 2 > > inches > > > > from > > > > the head and extending for about an inch and a half. That was around > > in > > > > somewhat patched to not patched for a couple cycles for about 5 > > thousand > > > > miles. > > > > The major was the driver side forward cylinder. Broke at the flange. > > Bad > > > > mojo. 20 miles home. > > > > > > > > Patched with the nasty white exhaust paste wrapped with the high temp > > buck > > > > a > > > > foot exhaust wrap and then with steel fence wire with about 1/16 to 1/8 > > > > spacing. > > > > > > > > Lasted for 150 miles, almost all I needed last summer. > > > > > > > > So the question - is proper/even back pressure a critical thing on > > these > > > > engines? Because this thing is more balanced cylinderwise and just in > > > > general > > > > than I remember. > > > > > > > > tom > > > > K0TAR > > > > > > > > On 10 May 2010 at 21:27, tom ring wrote: > > > > > > > >> Just had a local private mechanic install a new exhaust on an engine > > that > > > >> had > > > >> at least 1 broken stud. He removed and welded a couple other support > > > >> bits > > > >> during the job. Replaced the oxy sensor with new. Installed all new > > > >> fuel > > > >> lines and covered them with the old outside protective plastic > > shrouds. > > > >> > > > >> I supplied the new exhaust kit and fuel line kit but nothing else. He > > > >> picked > > > >> up the oxy sensor and replacement studs as well as a few other gaskets > > > >> and > > > >> bolts. > > > >> > > > >> Total bill - $330 including additional parts and shop. I like > > Westside > > > >> VW, but > > > >> this was a lot cheaper for 10 hours of work. > > > >> > > > >> He is in the Minneapolis metro if anyone is interested. Contact me at > > > >> the > > > >> shown email address. > > > >> > > > >> tom > > > >> K0TAR > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > > > >> signature database 5103 (20100510) __________ > > > >> > > > >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > >> > > > >> http://www.eset.com > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > > signature database 5106 (20100511) __________ > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Jake > > 1984 Vanagon GL 1.9 WBX 'The Grey Van' > 1986 Westy Weekender/2.5 SOHC Suby 'Dixie' > > Crescent Beach, BC > > www.thebassspa.com > www.crescentbeachguitar.com > http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27 > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5106 (20100511) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > >


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