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Date:         Wed, 19 May 2010 10:35:43 -0700
Reply-To:     cesar quiros <cesarquiros@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         cesar quiros <cesarquiros@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Camping Christmas Lights
Comments: To: crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com
In-Reply-To:  <AANLkTikUtg6rW_F1ijtDi2dxxUOs1Xfr3uZqfIcQLu_C@mail.gmail.com>
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just googled teh xmas light thing and found this site have 12V cig lighter lights

http://www.environmentallights.com/products/10364/C6_Auto-Boat_LED_Xmas_20_LED_Xmas_Str_PW?utm_source=google&utm_medium=base&utm_campaign=products

and this other site how to convert normal lights to run on 12V

http://michaelbluejay.com/batteries/dc-christmas-lights.html

Disclaimer is I have not looked into this just a quick search is all I did, so do not know how reliable this is.

> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 10:14:00 -0700 > From: crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM > Subject: Re: Camping Christmas Lights > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > I've put warm white Xmas strings across the front and side of the house to > light the pathways (we don't have streetlights here in Crescent Beach) and > the colour is pretty acceptable. I'd love to have a 12 volt string for > camping. > > Jake > > On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" < > camping.elliott@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Rewiring a factory-made light string from 120V to 12V might be a big > > challenge. There's also the current draw to consider: you didn't say if > > you were wanting to run incandescent bulbs or LEDs. A string of 25 C7 > > (the big outdoor seven-watt) bulbs would be (25 Bulbs X 7 Watts = 175 > > watts, which is about 15 amps at 12 volts (not counting inverter losses) > > so running that string for, say, eight hours would need 120 amp-hours. A > > darn big aux battery. > > > > Far more energy-efficient would be those strings that use LED bulbs. > > I've seen strings of 70 LED Christmas lights that use only 3.5 watts. A > > third of an amp-hour per hour. My inverter doesn't draw much excess > > current and thinking about it, it would be fun to bring a string of > > those things along in Mellow Yellow to festivize the site. > > > > A nice warm white might be hard to come by, the LED strings I've seen > > use the cheaper colder bluish-white LEDs. > > > > > > Richard Koerner wrote: > > > >> Went camping recently, had shore A/C power at the campground, and ran > >> a string of white Christmas lights outside the vanagon laid on the > >> ground....just for the fun of it.... but provides just the right > >> amount of light for illuminating the area. Girlfriend likes it, too; > >> now, she wants them all the time, even when out in the middle of > >> nowhere. > >> > >> I have an aux battery per the GoWesty kit. So one option is to run > >> the Christmas lights off a 120 VAC inverter.....easy smeasy I guess > >> to do that. The other option is to "rewire" the string of lights so > >> as to directly operate off 12 VDC; my string has 50 bulbs so normally > >> 120V divided by 50 is 2.4 volts per lightbulb....thus need to "group" > >> about 6 or 7 bulbs in series across the 12 volts of the auxillary > >> battery. Yes, much more hassle than simply using the inverter, but > >> probably more electrically efficient, and I could "derate" the bulbs > >> by putting them in groups of 8 or 9 thus with slightly dimmer light. > >> > >> Anyway, I suppose a third option is to buy 12VDC Christmas lights > >> from someplace....they must be available. But that takes all the > >> challenge out of it! > >> > >> Just wondering if the List has any clever ideas on this; basically it > >> provides low-cost, pleasant, lighting around the campsite in the > >> immediate vicinity of the slider door area. So would candles and a > >> kerosene lantern I guess.....but candles blow out, and don't want to > >> carry 2 or 3 kerosene lanterns, too bulky. > >> > >> Rich 85 Vanagon San Diego > >> > > > > > > -- > > Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott > > 84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana") > > 74 Westrailia: (Ladybug Trailer company, San Juan Capistrano, Calif.) > > Bend, OR > > KG6RCR > > > > > > -- > Jake > > 1984 Vanagon GL 1.9 WBX 'The Grey Van' > 1986 Westy Weekender/2.5 SOHC Suby 'Dixie' > > Crescent Beach, BC > > www.thebassspa.com > www.crescentbeachguitar.com > http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27 _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3


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