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Date:         Sun, 23 May 2010 11:12:12 -0700
Reply-To:     Anthony Egeln <regnsuzanne@YAHOO.COM>
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From:         Anthony Egeln <regnsuzanne@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Castrol and BP
In-Reply-To:  <20100523085803.69YND.474990.imail@eastrmwml45>
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Change the oil filter midway through oil changes to remove the dirt.  I go much longer than 3,000 miles between oil changes in my WBX.  I suspect that the synthetic is such a superior lubricant that the dirt isn't as big an issue. I'm now approaching 100M miles on my WBX in the 7 years I've owned it, and have no idea how many miles were on the engine when I bought it (330M on the odometer).  So the synthetic (Mobil One 15W-50) must be working.  And that's through 5 Florida summers too. Anthony'89 Syncro GL (Hidalgo)

--- On Sun, 5/23/10, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET> wrote:

From: Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET> Subject: Re: Castrol and BP To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 8:58 AM

Ok, at the U.S. price (I'm not in Canada), if the filter is $6, then I'd be paying $6/qt for the oil.  I change every 3k miles to keep things clean.  Dirt is dirt, whether carried by synthetic or conventional oil.  My experience with conventional oil is that engines run way beyond the time that a car chassis is trash (not so in Vanagon, I realize, but .......... .)  Where are the economics in paying double the price of conventional oil?  If I drive the vehicle 150k miles (not likely at my age and driving rate, but ......... ), then I will change the oil 50 times.  At $6/qt that's $1200, or $600 extra that I could use on trips or something for Bonnie.  Will I actually get more miles on the vehicle if I use synthetic?  Haven't seen enough evidence to convince me yet, and I don't choose to leave the crud in the engine by extending the changes, as advised by many is wise.  Help me to understand, please.

BTW, I also realize that a few vehicle manufacturers are starting to require synthetic oil to keep a vehicle in warranty.  But that's not our vehicle, which was engineered when conventional oils were generally heavier and had different additives from those in our present generation of conventional oils (which is why we go out of our way to find 20W50).  Different from the synthetics, too, of course.

Thanks again, David

---- Frank Condelli <RAlanen@AOL.COM> wrote: > In a message dated 22/05/2010 6:12:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM writes: > >         AND, 5 litre jugs of Mobile  1, 15w50 on sale at Canadian Tire this > week for $29.39 CAD ! > > >>>>>>>>>I know you said conventional,  but a reminder...Mobil-1 full > synthetic and > Mobil-1 filter is 29.99 for a  gallon at Autozone till  5/31/10.<<<<<<<<<< > > > > > > Cheers, > > Frank  Condelli > Almonte, Ontario, Canada > '87 Westy & Lionel Trains (_Collection for sale_ > (http://frankcondelli.com/trainsal.htm) ) > _Frank Condelli &  Associates_ (http://frankcondelli.com/busindex.html)  - > Vanagon/Vanagon Westfalia Service in the Ottawa Valley > _Vanagon Stainless Steel Exhaust  Systems_ > (http://frankcondelli.com/exhaust.htm) > _BusFusion_ (http://www.busfusion.com/)  a VW Camper  camping event, > Almonte, ON, June 10 ~ 13,  2010

-- David McNeely


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