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Date:         Sat, 22 May 2010 18:44:02 -0400
Reply-To:     Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Strange Auto Trans Behavior
Comments: To: BenT Syncro <syncro@GMAIL.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <E9901ABC-26F6-4E3C-8137-2494B381D9C7@gmail.com>
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Is it a wine or fluid whistle? And to be clear it whines with the engine "off" but it still works while whining? I do not understand.

The fact that it works when cold and then stops indicates an internal fluid leak or valve problem. The typical culprits after a repair are the accumulator seal, or one of the piston seals, or a broken ring on the direct drum. The 2nd gear brake band piston and accumulator can be fixed tranny in car. The other require removal and disassembly. A competent tranny man should know how to pressure test and then drop the valve body and air test all the pistons. The pumps rarely go bad and when they do it is often the result of something else including improperly shimming the drum assemblies when joining the differential.

Dennis

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of BenT Syncro Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 2:03 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Strange Auto Trans Behavior

Good morning! And for some in the Mid-West, it's spelled differently nut sounds the same -- 'Ohio, Goh-zig-eh-muh-sue'. "I think I'm turning Japanese..."

Anyway, back to misbehaving Vanagon. I recently took my 1984 Vanagon GL with a Subaru 2.2 EJT (T for turbo) out of semi retirement. The reason it went to storage was because a local shop installed a defective Auto trans and had not honored their warranty.

Here's what happens. She drives fine for a few minutes then shortly starts to slip completely. Fluid level looks fine. If you shut the engine off for a few seconds, you will hear a loud whine for several seconds. While the whine is present, the trans keeps working. After about 10-20 seconds, whine disappears and so does the functionality of the auto trans. You can repeat this with the same results each time.

Where do you think that noise is coming from? It sounds like a pump of some kind. Is there a chance that it's just the torque converter that is bad? Afterall, all the gears seem to work when the trans is cold or when the turn off/on operation is done.

TIA,

BenT Sent from my torque converter


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