Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 19:42:42 -0700
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: What do you infer from this?
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Three words of advice...
'run the other way'
( ok, four words. )
'Westy TBD' .........Westy to be determined" ?
seriously, I picked up a manual trans 93 Eurovan MV ...
the vehicle is a nightmare, trust me.
fixing and working on one ...
a Vanagon is about 40 times more user/owner friendly.
I know of two Eurovans' with ..hard to believe, ...$ 15,000 invested in them
within two years, before they gave up on them and let them go for basically
nothing.
Of course they are better when you get used to them, and learn the tricks,
but they are not reliable, the eat up money, they are glitchy, and very hard
to work on.
In that price range, in US dollars , you can get a later model with VR6
engine ..
and those are modern complex cars that you can't do much on yourself unless
you are *really* dedicated,. clever or experinced.
My point is ..
$ 13K sounds awfully high for a 1992 Eurovan with 200K km on it.
I have a rich freind who bought a 2001 or so VR6 eurovan MV for $ 14K US, to
give you a comparison price.
just think of what a fine Vanagon you could get for that kind of cash ...
a real sweet one, and you an even work on it yourself, if so inclined.
Vanagons are not fading out, not even slightly,
they are looking more useful, valuable, and versitile than ever, I dare say.
and I read about the 5 speed manual trans shift linkage blowing out
sometimes.
I'm on the 93 Eurovan yahoo group.
check that group out.
Hey...I'll give you a fine, fine deal on mine ...
Tourquise manual trans 5 speed Eurovan Multi-van. Near perfect interior.
Hey ..only $ 5,000 and you can flat bed it home.
Supposed to need an ecu, havn't found one yet, plus I'm working on about 10
vanagons, so the EV gets little time ...
I only paid $ 400 for it ....but at 5K it's sure a lot less than that 13,500
one ..
just joking, but they are not fundamentally reliable reasonable-to-own
vehicles from what I have been able to gather so far.
Falls into the 'not recommended' catagory.
And there is no end in sight for Vanagons, they are still getting better all
the time.
Look for an Adventurewagon, then put an Westy camping interior in it, do a
good engine conversion. and you'll have one fine, fine camping traveling
Van.
Scott
www.turbovans.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Kraiker" <bybike@GMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 6:27 PM
Subject: What do you infer from this?
I'm looking at a '92 EV, seems to have a good history and original paint.
This stood out to me, and I am wondering about the implications of the
comments...
"an intermittent problem where the temp sensor and fuel gauge sometimes will
stop working when you hit a bump. Apparently this is a common issue with
these and reasonably simple to fix. Also, the manual gear selector is sloppy
and could use a bushing kit"
listing:
http://kitchener.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-RVs-campers-trailers-RVs-Eurovan-Westfalia-full-camper-W0QQAdIdZ194991959
only one photo, so i'll have to go look unless someone suggests they already
see a red flag.
Regards, Peter K
85 Jetta TDI Wagon
<Westy TBD>
