Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 17:17:33 -0700
Reply-To: Tobias Gogolin <usertogo@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Tobias Gogolin <usertogo@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Power Steering Rack Question
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> http://www.bus-boys.com/steeringvanagon.html
> Says the kit is 'No Longer Available'!
>
> Or is it?
>
> This is apparently the kit one needs to find:
>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=251-498-020
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 7:11 PM, John Rodgers <inua@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>> It might not have been such a bad thing had the ring not been machined
>>> cast aluminum. But there is not a lot of material there and a whack in
>>> the wrong place is not a good thing.!
>>>
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> John Rodgers
>>>> Clayartist and Moldmaker
>>>> 88'GL VW Bus Driver
>>>> Chelsea, AL
>>>> Http://www.moldhaus.com
>>>> Thanks for that warning John.
>>>>
>>>> you'd think unscrewing a lock ring with the hammer and punch trick
>>>> would not
>>>> be so terrible a thing to do.
>>>>
>>>> don't know when I'll get to it, but I'll be careful.
>>>> thanks,
>>>> Scott
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "John Rodgers" <inua@charter.net>
>>>> To: "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
>>>> Cc: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 6:18 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Power Steering Rack Question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Scott,
>>>>>
>>>>> If you try to take one of these apart - you will need a spanner wrench
>>>>> with a tang on each tip to remove the lock ring.. Make sure those tangs
>>>>> are a good solid fit. I tried this on the '85 GL I had, and the wrench
>>>>> I
>>>>> had wasn't the right one, was worn, and kept slipping. so, like a rank
>>>>> neophyte dumb-butt, I tried the old punch and hammer trick. Wrong
>>>>> thing to
>>>>> do!!! I managed to break that cast aluminum lock ring. Screw that up
>>>>> and
>>>>> you are SOL unless y ou have a box of spare parts. I was never able to
>>>>> find a replacement. Fortunately I had a friend whose Dad was the
>>>>> chief VW
>>>>> mechanic at a VW dealership, and he was able to weld and re-thread the
>>>>> thing. He finished the rebuild for me, and I never had any more
>>>>> trouble
>>>>> with it right up to the time I sold it some 115,000 miles later. Just
>>>>> be
>>>>> careful. Be advised that installing the kit without machining or
>>>>> reaming
>>>>> worked in my case. I was just fortunate I suspect.
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>> John Rodgers
>>>>> Clayartist and Moldmaker
>>>>> 88'GL VW Bus Driver
>>>>> Chelsea, AL
>>>>> Http://www.moldhaus.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/7/2010 7:34 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Cool Dennis, tell me what you think of this then ..
>>>>>> I have a used rack that does not leak.
>>>>>> but it is 'draggy' right at center..
>>>>>> both by feel with rack out of the car, and driving straight down the
>>>>>> road.
>>>>>> I am thinking there may be a preload adjustment by shims in there for
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> perhaps...
>>>>>> sound possible ?
>>>>>> I havn't really tried to take one apart,
>>>>>> I have at least two to play with, I should. To much else to
>>>>>> fix/restore/repower !
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>> www.turbovans.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Dennis Haynes" <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
>>>>>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 4:47 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Power Steering Rack Question
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have tried a number of times to overhaul the racks. Often the
>>>>>> leaking
>>>>>> seal
>>>>>> is just a symptom. Often the rack end bushings or rack itself are
>>>>>> worn or
>>>>>> grooved and require replacement or machine work. There is also the
>>>>>> possibility of the valve being worn and I have seen some leak at the
>>>>>> pinion
>>>>>> shaft. You will need some special tools to get the rack a part.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dennis
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of
>>>>>> Craig Morton
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 4:27 PM
>>>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>>>> Subject: Power Steering Rack Question
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have found the reseal kit. Price is reasonable. Anyone installed
>>>>>> these
>>>>>> seals?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Craig
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tobias Gogolin
>> Tel. Movistar (646) 124 32 82
>> Tel. Telcel (646) 160 58 99
>> skype: moontogo
>> messenger: usertogo@hotmail.com
>>
>> Blog: http://zeitgeistensenada.blogspot.com/
>>
>> You develop Sustainable Ranch Technology at
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SURA-TECH
>> an Open Source Electric Motor/Alternator at
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Performance_Axial_Flux
>> and an Open Source Motor Controller at
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GoBox
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Tobias Gogolin
> Tel. Movistar (646) 124 32 82
> Tel. Telcel (646) 160 58 99
> skype: moontogo
> messenger: usertogo@hotmail.com
>
> Blog: http://zeitgeistensenada.blogspot.com/
>
> You develop Sustainable Ranch Technology at
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SURA-TECH
> an Open Source Electric Motor/Alternator at
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Performance_Axial_Flux
> and an Open Source Motor Controller at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GoBox
>
--
Tobias Gogolin
Tel. Movistar (646) 124 32 82
Tel. Telcel (646) 160 58 99
skype: moontogo
messenger: usertogo@hotmail.com
Blog: http://zeitgeistensenada.blogspot.com/
You develop Sustainable Ranch Technology at
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SURA-TECH
an Open Source Electric Motor/Alternator at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Performance_Axial_Flux
and an Open Source Motor Controller at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GoBox
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