Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 12:33:41 -0700
Reply-To: BenT Syncro <syncro@GMAIL.COM>
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From: BenT Syncro <syncro@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: 2008 Pasat wheel will it fit. 89 vanagon
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Tom,
As Bob mentioned, 6 1/2" is not the offset. You might be talking about
bachspace which is a different way to express how far in the inside
edge will go. Since we're talking Vanagons, let's use the preferred
language of wheels for VW's. ET (einpress tief -- pushed in depth in
German) is the preferred reference.
Anyway, the offset is important not just for clearance but also for
handling dynamics not to mention proper loading if the wheel bearings.
Typical factory alloys on Vanagons are ET30. That means the mounting
surface of the wheel is 30mm further inward than the imaginary
centerline of that wheel. So if you were looking at the cover of A
ketchup bottle, midway on the edge would be ET0. Anything inwards is
ET with a positive number. Anything the other way would be a negative
number.
To get back to your target wheels, you need to tell us width and
offset so we can try to sort this out or you. Remember, stock alloy
wheels are 6" wide at ET30. Every inch (or fraction thereof) you add,
sticks 1/2 inch inwards and 1/2 outwards. So if you look at your van,
you can measure how far that new wheel will go relative to what you
already have. An ET bigger than ET30 will add or subtract inward
depending on that number.
As a general rule, cars like the Passat have a bigger ET than a
Vanagons. They are also hubcentric. The centerbore is 57mm. You need
closer to 66-67mm to clear your hubs or dustcaps in the front of your
Vanagon. The need to enlarge the centerbore unless you are using
spacers thick enough to place the wheel out of the caps' way.
Don't forget to factor in load rating. The Vanagon is a heavy device.
You wouldn't expect a 300 lb. primaballerina to fit in a 45 lb. girl's
shoes, right?
Regards,
BenT
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On Jun 9, 2010, at 11:12 AM, Tom Jansen <norgecastle@TX.RR.COM> wrote:
> There are some new takeoff wheels and tires at the VW dealer.
> 2005 - 2010 PASAT
> 235 - 45 - 17 M6 Continental
> 6.5" offset.
>
> Will they fit my Vanagon?
> With offsets?
> Any grinding involved?
> too high??
>
> They are 5 x 112 . The VW guy that seemed to be somewhat
> knowledgeable with wheels said the pattern is good 5x112. They are
> inset and may need spacers especially on front.
>
> Thanks for input I did look at Archives nothing that I could
> translate to YES.
>
> picture of wheels looks like from 2008 wagon?
> http://www.vw.com/preloved/used-vw-pwagon2008/en/us/
>
> Tom J
> Cloppell, Tx.
>
> 720-891-1901
> norgecastle@tx.rr.com
