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Date:         Thu, 10 Jun 2010 07:43:08 -0700
Reply-To:     Jay lefstein <jleftbrane@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Jay lefstein <jleftbrane@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: AC While Camping
Comments: To: mark drillock <mdrillock@COX.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <4C10D260.6000403@cox.net>
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I have been trying to hold back and not say anything to this thread. I think a generator and AC are getting rediculous!! no wonder the weather is so F@#Ked up these days. The ford engine in my van puts out less emissions then a stock water boxer I try to have a full van load of people when i drive anywhere far i bring bikes to cut down on driving once i get there the list go's on but heres the kicker;

I DO THIS FOR YOU AND YOURS AS MUCH AS MYSELF IF NOT MORE ( i don't have kids )

although I do think it is a persons choice to use AC or a generator because they can go and buy it, it doesn't make it right ( or wrong I guess) you can rent a hooker too , do you want your sister ,daughter or mom to be one? you can take your hand, a gun maybe a knife and kill someone, should you do this?

i think thats enough

this thread is funny we all feel the way we do.

I also think that comparing a heater in winter to AC in summer is rediculous!!! J On 10-Jun-10, at 4:54 AM, mark drillock wrote:

> Yes, the Honda 2000 is very capable of continuously running a small AC > unit. Even the smaller Honda 1000 can do almost it (but with more fuel > consumption in my experience, among other drawbacks.) > > I'm not sure that the noise level would be acceptable with a window > unit > mounted entirely inside the van. The noise issue is one of my biggest > objections to both the AC and generator use. I have not used them > while > camping exactly but at a small off the grid vacation home. With > extreme > heat and high humidity the need to survive over-rides the sound > concerns > at some point, or so I have found. > > I installed a 12 volt swamp cooler into my Westy front luggage rack > many > years ago. I cut a hole down through the ceiling between the front > seats > with the vent aimed to the rear bed. This came in handy for hot desert > camping but eventually I found that 1 or 2 small 12 volt fans inside > the > van were enough 99% of the time after we also got a 3 window canvas. I > removed the swamp cooler yesterday, and patched the roof hole. > > Every time I mention it people ask this so I will say it now. The > swamp > cooler was only for use while parked with the engine off. We put water > in it only under low humidity conditions. The high rate of air > exchange > it provided made it great as just a fan but the power use was too high > to be practical for continuous running other than a day or two without > driving to charge the battery. A solar panel would help, or if camped > with electrical hookup it could be fine. > > Mark > > > Rob wrote:............... >> >> I've been thinking about building a small AC unit into the Vanagon. >> Maybe where the refrigerator is, maybe under the rear seat... The >> unit would be permanently installed and vented to put the hot air >> outside. In my mind I picture vents to the outside that look like the >> engine inlet vents on the old type2. If not that then the luggage >> rack mounted unit looks the cleanest. >> Any thoughts on where to mount one inside? >> >> On a side note I have heard that the Honda 2000 has the 'oomph' to >> power a small AC unit, anyone have any experience with that? >> >>


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