Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 00:46:16 -0700
Reply-To: Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: seat belt replacement
In-Reply-To: <20100613205246.RIZT7.724127.imail@eastrmwml35>
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dear seat belts
ya know ... i am not a mechanic ... but ... i have twisted off a lot of
bolts and nuts ...
over tourque of a bolt or nut can cause lots of problems that will not =be
evident until they are required to do their job ...
vibration will worry the threads until they back out and become loose or any
variety of situations ...
there are many well documented situations of airplanes flying many hours
with known stress situations that are gambled on til they fail ...
speaking from the point of view of a fellow who rolled the T25 at christmas
in whyoming and came away with only minor scrapes and bruises to wife in
passenger seat ...
i would suggest seat belt bolts torqued to twice recommended ft pounds is
asking for a disaster at the very time you want them to work
i would suggest you follow the advice of lucas and re-tap the hole and
replace the bolts with new superior grade bolts ...
just a suggestion from a fellow who has required his seat belts to work and
they did when required
yours
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote:
> ---- "S. Lucas Valdes" <lucas@gowesty.com> wrote:
> > David,
> >
> > It sounds like the threads on the bolt and maybe the hole are buggered
> up.
> > The thread is a 7/16-20. You can get a replacement bolt at any hardware
> > store. Try a new bolt. If it does not thread in easily, you will have to
> get
> > a tap and chase the threads.
> >
> > There is not spacer utilized there.
> >
> > Lucas.
>
> Lucas, thanks again for your response. Following the advice of David
> Beierl, who is a participant in the vanagon.com mailing list, I cleaned
> the bolt and bore threads with brake cleaner, and put antisieze lubricant on
> the threads. I then screwed the bolts in, tightened them up, and snugged
> them down on the fittings. The tightening did require more force than the
> 35-45 ft lbs your instructions recommend (I discontinued using my cheap
> torque wrench for fear of breaking it, but it would not turn the screws in
> at 60 ft. lbs, so I went to a regular socket wrench. The screws were
> clearly turning in properly, just required inordinate force. They set
> properly, there is no damage to the bore, the nut, or the surrounding parts.
> The screws did not twist, they turned in and set properly. I had been
> advised by someone else that the screws require a great deal of force to
> turn them in properly. Before cleaning them and applying the antisieze
> lubricant, I was unable to turn them in, but I could tell at that point that
> they were turning properly, not stopping because of bad threads.
>
> Thanks again, David McNeely
>
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mcneely4@cox.net [mailto:mcneely4@cox.net]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 5:02 PM
> > To: support@gowesty.com
> > Subject: seat belt replacement
> >
> > Hello, I recently bought several seat belts from you, and replaced a
> jumper
> > seat belt with a 3-point, and both rear seat belts (this is in a
> Volkswagen
> > Vanagon GL Campmobile, 1991) with 3-point belts. I also replaced one of
> the
> > receivers for the rear, as it was worn and the buckle did not work well.
> >
> > When I removed the fitting under the middle of the rear seat to replace
> the
> > receiver (female end to receive the male buckle), first I found the bolt,
> or
> > machine screw to be very hard to turn, but it came out ok. Putting it
> back,
> > I find I cannot get it snugged down to the fitting, so the fitting is
> loose.
> > The bolt turns very hard, and eventually it seems to just stop as if it
> has
> > reached the end of it's travel. That leaves some 3/8" of the bolt still
> > exposed, and the fitting is not snugged, though it was originally. The
> > screw is not cross threaded. I have removed it and replaced it several
> > times now. I even put it into the nut without the fitting to see how it
> > behaved. Same way, stops turning part way in.
> >
> > It is conceivable that there was a spacer under the fitting, but if so I
> did
> > not see it at all. So, what do I do? Take the thing to a professional?
> If
> > there is supposed to be a spacer, I'm sure I can get something that is
> just
> > as good as the original, or maybe you sell such a thing. Please advise,
> as
> > I do not consider the installation to be adequate or safe as is, with the
> > fitting not snugged.
> > --
> > David McNeely
> >
>
> --
> David McNeely
>
--
roger w
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