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Date:         Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:33:04 -0500
Reply-To:     Tom Hargrave <thargrav@HIWAAY.NET>
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From:         Tom Hargrave <thargrav@HIWAAY.NET>
Subject:      Was Techron, now Teflon
Comments: To: David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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Teflon is not dissolved in the oil, it's a suspended solid.

Most who use Teflon loaded oil don't realize that the larger particles are immediately pulled out of their oil by the oil filter. And the remaining particles are so small that they pump harmlessly through the engine's bearings.

But there is real danger in some engines of the stuff piling up at the end of oil galleries and oil starving bearings. These engines use partial flow oil filters instead of full flow oil filters and the partial flow systems let the larger particles, the ones too large to pass through a bearing, on through to cause damage. Can you say "VW Air Cooled?????"

And the statement that Teflon coats your friction surfaces is pure BS. Teflon is so slippery that it won't stick to anything but itself and manufactures have to use a special process just to apply the stuff to your frying pan. They have to start by roughing the surface then they apply a very thin layer, bake it on, and then they build up the Teflon up in alternate spray / bake cycles. The statement that Teflon coats your friction surfaces why SLICK-50 lost their lawsuit & is why Dupont tried to have them remove the Dupont name from their product! Dupont was afraid of a secondary lawsuit because they knew better - they designed Teflon and are familiar with all of its characteristics.

Tom www.stir-plate.com

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf Of David Beierl Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 5:45 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Techron

At 06:39 PM 6/19/2010, Dave Mcneely wrote: >There's Teflon in some oils sold for additives. Pretty slippery stuff. >Good for engines? I don't know. I don't use it. DMc

Either no benefit or actively bad, likely the latter. DuPont tried the get the Slick-50 people to take their name off the product, dunno if they succeeded. I believe they still sell the PTFE powder to them though, tsk tsk.

Yours, David


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