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Date:         Mon, 21 Jun 2010 01:23:13 -0700
Reply-To:     Rob <becida@COMCAST.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Rob <becida@COMCAST.NET>
Subject:      Re: Freeze-12 and other A/C supplies
Comments: To: Robert Fisher <garciasghostvw@GMAIL.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <006f01cb1110$c7af6260$570e2720$@com>
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I'm not calling you a liar, I'm more than willing to be educated and I'm sorry you feel this way but "a considerable number" of injuries sounds like something that needs to be addressed. You made the claim, back it up.

Rob becida@comcast.net

At 6/21/2010 12:10 AM, Robert Fisher wrote: >On the contrary, I have no obligation to deal with your emotional issues; >aside from that I don't appreciate being called a liar. I also don't >appreciate people casually condoning and even recommending dangerous >practices on this list, as sometimes happens. People have enough problems >without other people leading them into something stupid because "nothing's >ever happened" to them. >IIRC I read the article about three years ago during another go-round on >this subject. It was a link on the main page of that organization's website; >I don't recall the name of it now and I didn't follow what happened with it >from there, but it was clear about what they were doing and why. >If you really wanted to know you could look it up, but that would require >opening your mind to possibilities outside of your narrow worldview instead >of being dismissive of them. > >Robert > >-----Original Message----- >From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of >Rob >Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 10:56 PM >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >Subject: Re: Freeze-12 and other A/C supplies > >At 6/20/2010 10:01 PM, Robert Fisher wrote: > >There are other considerations as well; I read some time back that a > >Nat'l professional organization representing automotive A/C service > >techs was suing the manufacturers of hydrocarbon "refrigerants" > >because of all of their members (apparently a considerable number) > >that had been injured trying to service systems that had been filled > >with explosive gases unbeknownst to them. > >You're going to have to back that claim up... sounds like just >another internet story to me. > >We are trying to keep 20+ yr old Vanagon running. I just don't see >why we can't pass on what works and what doesn't, there have been so >many stories and personal opinions on this thread. That happens on a >lot of threads... > >So many things help us keep these machines running, so many people >helping each other. Did you try it? Did it work? Why didn't it work? >Did you do it yourself or have it done? Where did you find the parts? >Name brand? Part number? URL? >So many questions, so much help. > >I guess someone coming out with outrageous claims about something >that is working and has been for some time with no problems is the >price we pay for this form of help and community. >That's how the list is... I guess I should learn to accept it cause >I'm sure as heck not going to be able to change it. Still at times I >get irritated with the bs. > > > >Rob >becida@comcast.net


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