Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 07:26:31 -0700
Reply-To: Marc Sayer <marcsayer@HUGHES.NET>
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From: Marc Sayer <marcsayer@HUGHES.NET>
Subject: Re: Dealing w/ eBay vendors who want non-eBay sale
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They are crooks. They want to use the ebay website, take advantage of
the exposure ebay gives them, and use ebay as an advertising agent, but
they don't want to pay for those services. Sorry, that's theft. If they
are willing to lie, cheat and steal from ebay, what in the world makes
anyone think they won't do the exact same thing to someone buying
something from them. If you don't like ebay, fine, don't use them. But
don't use them and then try to duck out on paying them, or bad mouth
them about their fees. No one is forced to use ebay, it is entirely
voluntary. People use it because it gets them great exposure world wide
and that helps sell stuff. In other words it has an intrinsic value to
someone trying to sell something. You sign an agreement when you list
something through them for sale, and you have no right or justification
for then trying to not honor that agreement once you've reaped the
benefits of their service. Ebay strictly forbids this particular
practice for this exact reason Anyone using ebay to list things for
sale, and then trying to sell the item to someone outside of ebay, so as
to avoid the fees, is a crook and has no honor or integrity. They are
also breaking the law (theft of services) and their contract with ebay.
Yeah, that sounds like someone I want to do business with....not.
> On Monday, June 21, 2010, BenT Syncro<syncro@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> How do you guys feel about vendors you find on eBay who insist on
>> completing deals outside of eBay?
>>
>> I was shopping for a rear engine carrier for my 84 Subie powered van.
>> Found the listings from Small Car Performance but did not see the 2wd
>> mount. I asked if they can list one for sale so I can then buy it in
>> compliance with eBay rules. The SCP contact named Mao, said they would
>> only sell via their non-eBay website. He/She added they will not be
>> listing the particular items I inquired about "for some time".
>> Therefore, I better buy it direct from them. I understand they are
>> trying to improve their profit margin but it seems a despicable,
>> extortionist practice from my perspective. How would you feel in my
>> position?
>>
>> They do list a similar looking mount for the same price but specified
>> for a Syncro. Does anyone know if there any differences between these
>> mounts?
>>
>>
>> TIA,
>>
>>
>> BenT
>>
>>
>> BenT
>>
>>
>
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Marc Sayer
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Oakridge, OR USA
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