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Date:         Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:47:17 -0700
Reply-To:     Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: lug nuts torque-
Comments: To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@turbovans.com>
In-Reply-To:  <0a6001cb14e0$67a186e0$6401a8c0@PROSPERITY>
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No, you're right Scott, the wide fives have the stupid lug bolts all the way around. I

Was that just so I had to sit in the mud to change a friggin' tire? ;)

On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans < scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:

> re > > stock Vanagon fitment is nuts on studs in the rear and lug bolts > in the front just like a Beetle or Split. > > are you sure ? > I've owned lots of those, and I only remember bolts at all four corners. > > sure of it actually .. > here's a way to remember ..Split Window buses ... > those use the large 5 lug bolt pattern up to 1970 ( first year of a > 'regular wheel' with small center hole and 5 X 112 bolt patter is the 71 > Bay Window Bus .....last year of 1600 engine, first year of disc brakes, and > normal wheels ) .. > so if old Buses with that large bolt pattern had studs sticking out of the > drums .. > we would remember such an odd thing. > and studs in the rear would start with the normal type wheels in 71, I > believe. > > by normal I mean a center hole of about 3 inches in diameter, and 5 X 112 > bolt pattern.. > not the wheels with a huge hole in the middle prior to that . Those were > all 15 inch .. > the normal type Van wheels are 14's , pretty sure. > > but back to vanagons. > the best overall VW ever made. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jake de Villiers" < > crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM> > > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 7:58 PM > > Subject: Re: lug nuts torque- > > > Hey Dave, stock Vanagon fitment is nuts on studs in the rear and lug bolts >> in the front just like a Beetle or Split. >> >> Volks Cafe's Big Brake Kit will give you studs on the front too. >> >> Jake >> >> On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote: >> >> ---- Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM> wrote: >>> >>> > and checking how tight they are after getting van back from a tire > >>> store >>> - >>> > very smart ! >>> >>> Just got back. Lug bolts (not nuts, which I said previously in error) >>> were >>> torqued at the shop to the 130 ft. lbs specified in the owner's book (I >>> saw >>> the tech make the adjustment on the wrench and tighten to the click). An >>> odd thing there (Discount Tires): the clerk ("Assistant Manager" -- >>> aren't >>> they all?) told me his spec for the torque was 120 ft. lbs, and showed me >>> on >>> his computer screen. I questioned that, and he read further, finding >>> that >>> his program stated that the 120 ft. lbs was for lug nuts, and that the >>> torque for lug bolts might differ (but it didn't specify what it should >>> be). >>> >>> Do any of you have nuts on studs, rather than bolts in holes? Just >>> askin'............... . >>> >>> BTW, I have no trouble loosening the lugs with my 4-way (just checked >>> after >>> returning from the tire shop), but I likely will get a breaker and socket >>> -- >>> for the easier storage if for nothing else. Why haul around 3 extra arms >>> and sockets I don't need? So, is an inexpensive breaker ok, or do I need >>> to >>> pay a higher dollar? Are they adjustable for torque, or do I use it like >>> I >>> have always used any lug wrench -- tighten until it seems right? >>> >>> Wow, I seem naive for an old fart, but I've never used anything other >>> than >>> a lug wrench on wheels. >>> >>> Another question -- The owner's manual says to rotate the tires front to >>> back and back to front, with no crossover. That's like we used to do >>> with >>> directional radials, but most are not directional now. I have >>> symmetrical >>> tires, and I like to include the spare in the rotation. The tire shop >>> guy >>> first said to just move them around the vehicle in a circular fashion >>> including the spare. Then he found in his service book that said if the >>> customer insists on including the spare in the rotation to switch the >>> spare >>> for the right front, which becomes the spare, cross the rears to the >>> front, >>> move the fronts straight back to the rear. I have always crossed rears >>> to >>> front as his service book said, but I was just wondering what most folks >>> do. >>> Also, his service book stated that it is "not recommended" to include >>> the >>> spare in the rotation. Why would that be? He had no explanation. I >>> prefer >>> to include the spare in the rotation so as not to accumulate an old but >>> not >>> used tire -- I bought five tires new 14 months ago, and they now have a >>> bit >>> over 6K miles. At that rate, these tires will still be around in 8 or 10 >>> years. I should use all five, seems to me. BTW, they are Kumho 857s, >>> and >>> they are wearing wonderfully well -- nice and even across the tread, even >>> around all four tires. >>> >>> David McNeely >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Jake >> >> 1984 Vanagon GL 1.9 WBX 'The Grey Van' >> 1986 Westy Weekender/2.5 SOHC Suby 'Dixie' >> >> Crescent Beach, BC >> >> www.thebassspa.com >> www.crescentbeachguitar.com >> http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27 >> > >

-- Jake

1984 Vanagon GL 1.9 WBX 'The Grey Van' 1986 Westy Weekender/2.5 SOHC Suby 'Dixie'

Crescent Beach, BC

www.thebassspa.com www.crescentbeachguitar.com http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27


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