Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 16:36:23 -0700
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: Buying with a bill of sale only
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Good luck.
usually when a junkyard does that with a vehicle..
they'll only sell parts of it.
We'll see what happens..
but my understanding is that that once it's declared junk and title turned
in to the state's DMV ...
that's a one way deal.
I have never heard of a junkyard selling a whole vehicle that had already
been put in the 'for parts only' catagory and title turned in. Shady of
them to do so ..
and possibly illegal .
I hope it works out.
glad you told the whole real story, because up until now it sounded like
someone who had just spaced out the title...or 'bought' the van from someone
who lost the title etc.
a junkyard ....a real one ...involved with the DMV like this ...
they are legally required to go by the state's vehicle registration and
titling laws, I believe.
they're not a 'Reigster Auto Dealer' ..like used car lots are.
but they are 'registered auto dimantlers' ..
no legitimate and careful junkyard would sell a car like this letting you
think you could get it titled somehow.
I got a dead car like that from a junkyard once...they were very, very clear
..'parts only, you can never register or title it'. Eventually I cut that
one up and got rid of it as scrap metal.
hey, I have a homeless brown 84 GL ....no title....give you a fine deal on
it, I even have the lic plate # and the state of Washington recognizes that
plate # and VIN...still in their system. Now that kind of deal you can get a
title for.
here's one that would be hard to get a title for, but I'll give ya a bill of
sale..
Canadian Model 82 diesel vanagon.
Best be thinking about swapping over all the parts onto a legitmate van ..
or maybe you can get through it yet.
Bascially ..if the junkyard is a legal business...
they mislead you if in fact the title was turned in by them and they
declared it just junk with their state DMV.
Hope you get through it , but you might be scewed about getting a title, at
least in your state.
now 'the whole story' and the 'real story' is apparent..
coulda said that up front, adn that coulda saved a lot of postings trying
to help you.
good luck.
( and more and more ....whatever I hear or read, I am compelled to
say......'ok, got that, now what do you really mean by that ? ' )
I don't mean to be harsh.
just please tell the WHOLE story and save a lot of people's time.
you know the old saying ..if it's too good to be true, it probably is.
and hey...I got this pristine blah blah blah !
lol -:)
but communicate completely please .
thanks.
sdf
----- Original Message -----
From: "craig cowan" <phishman068@GMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: Buying with a bill of sale only
> Okay....
> here's the story.
>
> The van is across the country. The current owner bought it from a junkyard
> where he happened to see it had just shown up and had not yet been picked
> through (they took 3 tires and the front seats, thats all so far). Anyway,
> the van was sent to the junkyard as part of an estate sale (I guess
> someone
> died, and they got rid of their van for whatever reason) So, it is
> complete,
> however no attempts to run it have been made.
> Well while it was sitting at the junkyard, the junkyard processed it to be
> shredded and "turned in the title". Thus when the current owner bought it
> from the junkyard, they were given a bill of sale, and I will be given a
> bill of sale from the current owner.
>
> This of course is less than ideal circumstances to buy a car under.
> This is however, EXACTLY what i've had my eye out for and a pair of
> pennies
> rubbing together in my pocket waiting for, for some time now. As such, I
> am
> confident this particular van will not come up again, and I'm almost ready
> to settle for something else....
> except HERE IT IS! It has come up, it's for sale, i'm able to buy it, and
> just need to figure this crap out first.
>
> I've requested the VIN from him and will be calling my local DMV about it
> tomorrow.
> Any additional suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Craig
> '85GL turned WESTY
> BOSTIG in the back
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:29 PM, <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> ---- craig cowan <phishman068@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>> > So i'm looking into buying a vehicle that is sold with a bill of sale
>> only.
>> > It's on the other side of the US, so I will have no chance to meet with
>> the
>> > seller. Does anyone know the process (in summary) of how I go about
>> getting
>> > this vehicle titled in my state (PA) later on?
>> >
>> > The reason I ask is....
>> > my brother purchased a vehicle project a year ago out of state with a
>> bill
>> > of sale only. Now he went to go get it titled. Having waited a year,
>> > they
>> > said they needed a letter or something from the seller, the seller can
>> > no
>> > longer be found, and they have told him flat out "We can't title this
>> > vehicle". While i'm sure there are loop holes and I'm sure he will get
>> > it
>> > titled in the end, I do not wish to go down this same path.
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > -Craig
>>
>> So, why do such a thing? A legitimate seller has title, and can transfer
>> it to you. Not true? Methinks it is.
>>
>> --
>> David McNeely
>>
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