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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 2010 21:50:34 -0400
Reply-To:     Mike <mbucchino@CHARTER.NET>
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From:         Mike <mbucchino@CHARTER.NET>
Subject:      Re: Buying with a bill of sale only
Comments: To: jon <jon@KENNEKE.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.LNX.4.58.1006301651220.18540@kenneke.com>
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In Mass, cars didn't even have titles years ago. So, if it's an old car (like my '59 Bug or '71 Karmann Ghia) and it's stayed in the state, and then eventually bought from the original owner, they have no title to give you. None currently exists! But, as soon as you go to the registry with a valid current BOS, it'll now get a new title issued in your name (or the PO can apply for one before selling it). A title is an ownership document ONLY. I have titled cars like this, but didn't get plates, insurance or inspection because the car wasn't road-ready at that time. This 'title-only' request usually throws the folks at the registry for a loop, but there's nothing preventing ANYONE from OWNING a vehicle, even if they don't have a driver's license. If it's a legal sale, and your registry refuses to give you a title, it is still possible to get a title from other 'less-strict' states. But, you need to have a helpful friend that resides in that state. You will have to pay all those different expenses, then get it titled to you in your state eventually. There's many kinds of titles, liked bonded, salvage, re-issue, replacement of lost, etc. There's usually some way to finagle a valid ownership document that allows you to legally and properly register a vehicle. Some cost more than others, some are more difficult, but it should be possible one way or another.

Mike B.

-------------------------------------------------- From: "jon" <jon@KENNEKE.COM> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 7:55 PM To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Subject: Re: Buying with a bill of sale only

> In the state of Oregon, many totalled/junkyard vehicles have a salvage > title. Particularly wrecked vehicles that an insurance company owns/owned. > You can get a real title by taking a "salvage title" vehicle into the DMV > for > a VIN inspection, and they'll issue you a reconstructed title. > > With a DMV VIN inspection, and even a lost title, you can get a new title > in Oregon. It's kinda nice, except in most cases you have to take the > vehicle to the DMV. It seems that there are some instances where an > inspector will come to you, but when I asked the DMV about it, they didn't > quite know how to answer. According to the law, a state police officer > could do the inspection. > > Of course, all states are different, but that's how it works here in > Orygone. > > Jon > > On Wed, 30 Jun 2010, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote: > >> Good luck. >> usually when a junkyard does that with a vehicle.. >> they'll only sell parts of it.


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