Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 22:36:11 -0400
Reply-To: craig cowan <phishman068@GMAIL.COM>
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From: craig cowan <phishman068@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Buying advice
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He took his asking price. I responded to his asking price within 5 minutes
of the car being listed. I agreed to buy it and got the wheels turning. Then
over the course of a week, we both had various commitments so the process
was slow. During that week, the real offers came in....
offering market value.
My fingers are crossed and my hopes high.
-Craig
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Bernie <berniej@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sadly I believe you had made your decision before asking the list for their
> opinion.
> Everyone I saw, and myself privately, suggested this was not the way to
> transact
> business.
> The seller created a " sense of urgency".
> The seller does not have a good reputation.
> The seller wants you to take all the risks.
> The seller now has your money and you have no signature, no bill of sale
> and no vehicle, nor have you laid eyes on the vehicle.
> Lastly am I correct in assuming you believe that the seller took
> 1/3 of the price he could get for it because he was trying to help you!
> Please let us know how things turn out.
>
> Bernie
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 2010-07-06, at 5:24 PM, craig cowan <phishman068@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> > I appreciate all the advice, particularly the first half of the advice I
> > recieved before buying it at noon....
> > : )
> >
> > To be fair, his "bad reviews" were from 2 people, they were frequent, and
> > they were resolved. They were resolved in a satisfactory way that Everett
> > let him back on thesamba and even wrote a little thing acknowledging that
> > this bad review was not very valid. The reviews in question were in
> regards
> > to a guy that bought a split window bus PROJECT from him, only to find it
> > had rust. Seriously? That's expected I thought.
> > And the other review was in regards to shipping a large item (I think it
> was
> > a middle seat) to Tailand, and it took SURPRISE.... more than 2 weeks.
> > So to give the man some credit, his slate may as well be clean. This
> stuff
> > happens, particularly if you sell alot of stuff.
> >
> > Anyway, for the last week i've been talking to the guy and getting really
> > good vibes about him. He's been very helpful and I sincerely think I am
> > getting a wonderful deal. The sad part of this situation is that I had a
> > deadline with which to pay him the money which was today, as he's closing
> a
> > house (he's been upfront about that since day 1). The reason being, my
> price
> > was 1/3 the cost of what he had another buyer lined up to pay, cash
> ready,
> > that could make the deadline. He was going out of his way to be nice to
> me,
> > since we agreed upon a price first.
> >
> > He now has my money, and I have an email correspondence with him listing
> his
> > personal information, contact information, and a stated (though still
> > unofficial) bill of sale which includes the VIN number, pictures, and a
> > description of the conditions.
> >
> > The vehicle is in Portland Oregon.
> > I am "planning" to have it shipped. I would however LOVE to drive it
> home.
> > Any volunteers to do some work on it for me : ) ????
> > I could have it shipped to you.... you could make it work...... I could
> fly
> > out....we could hang out..... i could have an adventure driving it
> > home...... : )
> > Just throwin it out there.....
> >
> >
> > Thanks again guys!
> >
> > -Craig
> > '85GL turned WESTY
> > BOSTIG In the back
> > '87SUNROOF SYNCRO
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <
> > scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Roger,
> >> thanks for mentioning me.
> >> I sure hope it works out for the guy buying the van, whatever happens.
> >> I'm glad he posted.
> >>
> >> Scott
> >> www.turbovans.com
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Roger Whittaker" <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
> >> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 10:35 AM
> >> Subject: Re: Buying advice
> >>
> >>
> >> dear far and away
> >>>
> >>> there are a few choices to make here
> >>> 1. send money ... laugh or cry later
> >>> 2. Go to see the guy and make purchase in person ..
> >>> 3. fly to oregon and if you dont like the van ...go see scott in
> medford
> >>> and
> >>> buy one of his
> >>> 4. you in PA already .. go see chris and drive away with all his junk
> ...
> >>> store it and then go get what ever you like from who ever and you
> already
> >>> have all the parts you need
> >>>
> >>> 5. send money ... hire other to pick up vehicle ...
> >>> 6 Rebuy already purchased vehicle from the scammers again and again
> from
> >>> various online ... send money now ... get goods later people ...
> >>> 7. Fly to england and go to the brickyard there to purchase ... send
> money
> >>> in GBP before you go so you can loose twice as much in exchange rate
> >>> 8. buy a delicia
> >>> 9. buy a toyota
> >>> 10 take a holiday on a cruise ship $$ are the same spent and adventure
> is
> >>> more controllable as onboard casino is set at 60 % house 40% guest
> >>>
> >>> yours
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 6:40 AM, craig cowan <phishman068@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I'm working on closing a deal today on a sunroof syncro that's in
> Oregon
> >>>> (I
> >>>> am in PA). Anyway....
> >>>> The buyer has asked that I just transfer money via a wire transfer in
> >>>> full
> >>>> to his bank account which i normally wouldn't be overly hesitant about
> >>>> but
> >>>> realize this would not afford me any type of fraud prevention should
> >>>> anything happen. I asked him a few days ago what assurance he can give
> me
> >>>> that this is going to be a fullproof transaction and his response was
> >>>> that
> >>>> should it go sour for any reason, just bash him on thesamba.com.
> Since
> >>>> he
> >>>> runs a VW restoration business almost entirely through thesamba, it
> >>>> seemed
> >>>> like a just response. Well..... I went and checked him out on the
> samba,
> >>>> and
> >>>> he's already been bashed enough. He's been banned close to 10 times
> >>>> (under
> >>>> different names), there are pending fraudulant claims and arguments
> >>>> occuring
> >>>> between he and buyers. Luckily, there are also great reviews of his
> >>>> service
> >>>> being above and beyond the call of duty. So this has me at least
> slightly
> >>>> concerned, any suggestions?
> >>>> Paypal may be an option, does that award a great deal more security?
> >>>>
> >>>> Furthermore, I don't recieve a bill of sale via the mail for at least
> a
> >>>> week
> >>>> after I give the guy all my money..... indicating that I don't
> actually
> >>>> own
> >>>> the car, but have given aside all my money. I asked that he send me an
> >>>> email
> >>>> with his full name, address, the VIN of the car, and which contains
> >>>> agreement terms....should I need to press charges later. Does this
> sound
> >>>> like a reasonable thing to want? Am I fair in wanting something like
> this
> >>>> BEFORE I pay? He seems to indicate (and I can see this point as well)
> >>>> that
> >>>> no actual change of ownership agreements ever occur untill after
> >>>> purchase.
> >>>> Sadly he's been pretty tricky with emails, so I have my concerns
> (Though
> >>>> he's easiliy reached via the phone and a wonderful person to talk too.
> He
> >>>> seems to be really interested in helping me out).
> >>>>
> >>>> Thoughts?
> >>>> I'm very excited about this purchase, but very concerned now.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Craig
> >>>> '85GL turned WESTY
> >>>> BOSTIG in the back
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> roger w
> >>> From Proverbs:
> >>> Under three things the earth trembles, under four it cannot bear up: a
> >>> servant who becomes king ...
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