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Date:         Thu, 1 Jul 2010 20:28:17 -0700
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Clutch Pedal Click
Comments: To: neil n <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
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my thoughts are that it's not likely to be the clutch master cylinder itself... but the clutch pedal and the clevis pin .. something to do with the pushrod etc.

I have never done it , but I have read that it's possible to cut an access hole in the front of the van behind the left headlight to get easy access to that mechanism.

just looked at a shell of a vanagon ....'maybe' that could be useful.

here's an idea ...besides take things all apart... if there is some extra free-play on top of the pedal travel.....try adjusting some out, and even that is a pain of course. and you spray lubed up in there as best you can ? can't hurt.

I always lube the ends of pushrod that go against hydraulic cylinder pistons ..like at the clutch MC and the slave too. ... never have seen that mentioned anywhere, but I think *any* metal-to-metal dry contact is a very bad thing. < and , speaking of that ....everyone has heard 'not too much oil or grease' on something right ? ...I sure have. Like 'too much' lube on any point is bad...but I disagree on that .. thinking about this the other day .....grease does evaporate. Why should it not ? It might take 10 years, even more, but a dap of grease on one little spot like the clevis pin there at the factory in 1982 or whatever...sure is not going to last 25+ years .....same on CV joints ..the spec amount is not enough after say 7 years. . I commonly find things that were lubed, dry. I put pretty generous amounts of good grease on and in things, and most of the time extra grease doesn't hurt, within reason. >

anyway .... if you lubed the upper end of the push rod decently with a good grease. ... my vote goes toward the clevis pin and hole....and clevis itself. I always thought they were just loose and funky anyway. like a much more cheaply produced part than the entire rest of vanagons, which are really well made vehicles overall. Unusually so even.

it's the single hardest adjustment anywhere in a vanagon . - clutch master cylinder push rod length adjustment. And it's trial and error too , adjust, put together, see what ya got, etc. A real bother sometimes. .

Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: "neil n" <musomuso@GMAIL.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 6:39 PM Subject: Clutch Pedal Click

> Hi all. > > Pedal cluster rebuilt, clevis hole repaired http://tinyurl.com/2uw8qax > and new clutch MC installed ~ 4 years ago. Low miles since then. All > has worked fine and still does but.... > > After pedal free play, I hear and feel an intermittent "click" or > light "clunk" in first 1/2" of clutch pedal travel. This noise seemed > to suddenly appear. If I stuff my hand up into the rear of cluster and > move the clutch MC pushrod L/R several times, the click goes away. > > I imagine this is highly unlikely, but could the noise be coming from > the push rod where it pushes on the MC plunger or from the MC itself? > > It's possible my pedal repair has failed. The archives suggest that a > click can be due to an ovaled hole. But there isn't any appreciable > play in pedal compared to a spare 1985 cluster. (which is in good > shape) > > Just trying to narrow down to what the most likely cause of the noise is. > > TIA, > > Neil. > > > -- > Neil Nicholson '81 VanaJetta 2.0 "Jaco" > http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/ > > http://groups.google.com/group/vanagons-with-vw-inline-4-cylinder-gas-engines


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